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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: Dragula] #3214421
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: Dragula] #3214478
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Way too much time going up in the air on the starting line instead of going forward tsk shruggy
My old, much slower bracket car would 60 ft in the mid 1.20s at Las Vegas and run low nines in the 1.4 mile at 140. +MPG or so. That was a bracket motor on E85 N/A shruggy
I wonder if he was driving it, motor tune and so on, like it was when driving it on the street on the same fuel work shruggy


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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3215056
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Have built a couple of them. Fro 1200 hp it really doesn't matter much. Two years ago we built a 6.4 Hemi, stock head castings, stock valvetrain, a small hyd roller cam, Holley intake, small primary headers and two HolsetHX 40turbos. Factory block and crank, Molnar Rods and CP pistons. Made 1100+ hp at the wheels. Just a homemade build up. Building a pretty similar set up now that will go in to my '70 New Yorker 4 D sedan. It used to have a 528 wedge with RPM heads, a small comp street roller, Torker 2 intake, blow thru carb and two 66mm Garret's Was never dynoed but I feel it would have made similar power with ease. Only run it once at the track, and it run 11.4/135 mph on DOT tires, 2.73 gears on an unprepped air port, could not really use the power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9OcCfXx0I I think turbos are the way to go. They do not stress the engine when not using power, and they are reliable. A centrifugal might be a little easier to drive because of less lag, but with that little power and a properly sized turbo set up, shouldn't have to do any tricks either.

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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: jyrki] #3215064
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Dat be a big bruiser up bow devil


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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: jyrki] #3215075
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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: jyrki] #3215094
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Originally Posted by jyrki
Have built a couple of them. Fro 1200 hp it really doesn't matter much. Two years ago we built a 6.4 Hemi, stock head castings, stock valvetrain, a small hyd roller cam, Holley intake, small primary headers and two HolsetHX 40turbos. Factory block and crank, Molnar Rods and CP pistons. Made 1100+ hp at the wheels. Just a homemade build up. Building a pretty similar set up now that will go in to my '70 New Yorker 4 D sedan. It used to have a 528 wedge with RPM heads, a small comp street roller, Torker 2 intake, blow thru carb and two 66mm Garret's Was never dynoed but I feel it would have made similar power with ease. Only run it once at the track, and it run 11.4/135 mph on DOT tires, 2.73 gears on an unprepped air port, could not really use the power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9OcCfXx0I I think turbos are the way to go. They do not stress the engine when not using power, and they are reliable. A centrifugal might be a little easier to drive because of less lag, but with that little power and a properly sized turbo set up, shouldn't have to do any tricks either.


Impressive!

Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: jyrki] #3215099
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Originally Posted by jyrki
Have built a couple of them. Fro 1200 hp it really doesn't matter much. Two years ago we built a 6.4 Hemi, stock head castings, stock valvetrain, a small hyd roller cam, Holley intake, small primary headers and two HolsetHX 40turbos. Factory block and crank, Molnar Rods and CP pistons. Made 1100+ hp at the wheels. Just a homemade build up. Building a pretty similar set up now that will go in to my '70 New Yorker 4 D sedan. It used to have a 528 wedge with RPM heads, a small comp street roller, Torker 2 intake, blow thru carb and two 66mm Garret's Was never dynoed but I feel it would have made similar power with ease. Only run it once at the track, and it run 11.4/135 mph on DOT tires, 2.73 gears on an unprepped air port, could not really use the power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9OcCfXx0I I think turbos are the way to go. They do not stress the engine when not using power, and they are reliable. A centrifugal might be a little easier to drive because of less lag, but with that little power and a properly sized turbo set up, shouldn't have to do any tricks either.


how did those HX 40's work out , what boost level were you able to see , I have 2 HX40's in the basement that I've had on my cummins powered ram ...


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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: JohnRR] #3215113
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They worked great. Might get to higher rpm with bigger turbos, but to about 5500 they make well over 20 psi if needed. The headers are made out of 1 5/8 water pipe (.120" wall), so it's most likely not an ideal configuration. The engine is in a 2017 Charger and has run 5.6 at 130+ mph in the 1/8. It's lighter than stock though.

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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: jyrki] #3215155
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Originally Posted by jyrki
They worked great. Might get to higher rpm with bigger turbos, but to about 5500 they make well over 20 psi if needed. The headers are made out of 1 5/8 water pipe (.120" wall), so it's most likely not an ideal configuration. The engine is in a 2017 Charger and has run 5.6 at 130+ mph in the 1/8. It's lighter than stock though.


One single HX40 on my 2000 Ram was good for 40 psi , I could get 44psi out of an HX35 but it was outside it's efficiency map. The larger cross section of the exhaust housing did make the HX40 a little laggy compared to the HX35 but the EGT was lower and there was less black smoke.


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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: jyrki] #3215193
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Originally Posted by jyrki
Have built a couple of them. Fro 1200 hp it really doesn't matter much. Two years ago we built a 6.4 Hemi, stock head castings, stock valvetrain, a small hyd roller cam, Holley intake, small primary headers and two HolsetHX 40turbos. Factory block and crank, Molnar Rods and CP pistons. Made 1100+ hp at the wheels. Just a homemade build up. Building a pretty similar set up now that will go in to my '70 New Yorker 4 D sedan. It used to have a 528 wedge with RPM heads, a small comp street roller, Torker 2 intake, blow thru carb and two 66mm Garret's Was never dynoed but I feel it would have made similar power with ease. Only run it once at the track, and it run 11.4/135 mph on DOT tires, 2.73 gears on an unprepped air port, could not really use the power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9OcCfXx0I I think turbos are the way to go. They do not stress the engine when not using power, and they are reliable. A centrifugal might be a little easier to drive because of less lag, but with that little power and a properly sized turbo set up, shouldn't have to do any tricks either.


I didn'r realize you built other fast C bodies besides the awesome TT '67 Fury you had over here for Drag Week. That's outstanding!


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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3215357
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This is my car and my Youtube channel. I built this Dart in my garage in 10 months with help from my buddy. We did pretty much everything except the final paint, the trans (thanks to Protrans!) and the engine machining (thanks Brian at IMM Engines!) in that video I was on the “small” tire 33x10.5w. I tune the motor, the suspension, and do pretty much everything by myself. I am not a bucks down racer like most think because the car is “pretty” but I digress. I appreciate you guys checking out my videos. Since that video i have made four link changes so it doesn’t hit the tire as hard nor hit the wheelie bars that hard. Also I figured out why the car is stuck in the 8.0’s which turned out to be too much exhaust back pressure so I am in the middle of a big turbo change. Hopefully the car picks up with the new turbos. My first outing should be the MATS in Vegas. I have also finished 2 Dragweeks with it and it has a lot of miles on it. Its 3400 at race weight and it makes about 1200 at the tire at 15psi.


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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: GY3] #3221790
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Originally Posted by GY3
How would you do it?

I see all these guys running stout times at drag and drive events and it kills me!

2nd or 3rd gen Hemi?

RB?

Which power adder?




https://youtu.be/_cz9aayDQ-M?si=aUwWXWqGKbQCckyH


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Re: Ideal build for a reliable 1200 plus hp in a street car? [Re: JcodeCharger] #3221836
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Originally Posted by JcodeCharger
This is my car and my Youtube channel. I built this Dart in my garage in 10 months with help from my buddy. We did pretty much everything except the final paint, the trans (thanks to Protrans!) and the engine machining (thanks Brian at IMM Engines!) in that video I was on the “small” tire 33x10.5w. I tune the motor, the suspension, and do pretty much everything by myself. I am not a bucks down racer like most think because the car is “pretty” but I digress. I appreciate you guys checking out my videos. Since that video i have made four link changes so it doesn’t hit the tire as hard nor hit the wheelie bars that hard. Also I figured out why the car is stuck in the 8.0’s which turned out to be too much exhaust back pressure so I am in the middle of a big turbo change. Hopefully the car picks up with the new turbos. My first outing should be the MATS in Vegas. I have also finished 2 Dragweeks with it and it has a lot of miles on it. Its 3400 at race weight and it makes about 1200 at the tire at 15psi.

Very nice program!

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