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looking for some advice been scammed on a part i sold on market place paid through pay pal the scammer claim the part had a problem which it DIDN'T pay pal messaged me but i never seen the message and paypal returned the money back to him. after a month notice my account was short i got in contact with paypal to see what the problem was they said there was dispute so i said will then send me my part back after many calls to paypal they said they would send courtesy message to him. l also messaged him on face book he said he would send it back after messaging him several time and asking for tracking number he then claimed he sent it but would not produce a tracking number and now will not answer his messages.


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Sorry to hear that, hasn’t happened to me, thankfully. I hope you get it resolved.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3214230
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Originally Posted by BigFish69
looking for some advice been scammed on a part i sold on market place paid through pay pal the scammer claim the part had a problem which it DIDN'T pay pal messaged me but i never seen the message and paypal returned the money back to him. after a month notice my account was short i got in contact with paypal to see what the problem was they said there was dispute so i said will then send me my part back after many calls to paypal they said they would send courtesy message to him. l also messaged him on face book he said he would send it back after messaging him several time and asking for tracking number he then claimed he sent it but would not produce a tracking number and now will not answer his messages.


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Please tell me it wasn’t a friends n family deal. If so you cheated the system and PayPal won’t helping you.


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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: pittsburghracer] #3214232
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Yes I was scammed out of $700 by a guy on here on a stroker crankshaft deal

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No it was not family or friends and paypal don't want to do anything to help

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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3214237
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Get a separate checking account for on line and paypal type stuff. Attach paypal to that. Keep a minimum of money in it. When you get paid for something through paypal, transfer it to a secure account right away.

I may get scammed or hacked (again), but they won't get much.

Know who you're dealing with.

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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Get a separate checking account for on line and paypal type stuff. Attach paypal to that. Keep a minimum of money in it. When you get paid for something through paypal, transfer it to a secure account right away.

I may get scammed or hacked (again), but they won't get much.

Know who you're dealing with.


I wonder if PayPal could somehow have the bank claw back the money, even if transferred.
You wouldn't think so, but anything is possible I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by BigFish69
looking for some advice been scammed on a part i sold on market place paid through pay pal the scammer claim the part had a problem which it DIDN'T pay pal messaged me but i never seen the message and paypal returned the money back to him. after a month notice my account was short i got in contact with paypal to see what the problem was they said there was dispute so i said will then send me my part back after many calls to paypal they said they would send courtesy message to him. l also messaged him on face book he said he would send it back after messaging him several time and asking for tracking number he then claimed he sent it but would not produce a tracking number and now will not answer his messages.


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Please tell me it wasn’t a friends n family deal. If so you cheated the system and PayPal won’t helping you.


He SOLD the part, so the F&F thing would NOT be to his detriment. The buyer pulled a scam and issued a claim against him through goods and services payment approach.

As mentioned, have an account solely for paypal cash transfers, get money, move it to a different account right away. No money in account, nothing to take.

A bank would g3et in big trouble if they went to a separate account to claw back money at paypals request. The account they have access is the only one that should potentially be garnished. Federal Banking rules would frown on them nixing a different account.

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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: crackedback] #3214266
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I got scammed on a TRANSMISSION.from John Cope .. does that count $5000 of junk


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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3214284
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Originally Posted by BigFish69
looking for some advice been scammed on a part i sold on market place paid through pay pal the scammer claim the part had a problem which it DIDN'T pay pal messaged me but i never seen the message and paypal returned the money back to him. after a month notice my account was short i got in contact with paypal to see what the problem was they said there was dispute so i said will then send me my part back after many calls to paypal they said they would send courtesy message to him. l also messaged him on face book he said he would send it back after messaging him several time and asking for tracking number he then claimed he sent it but would not produce a tracking number and now will not answer his messages.


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This is why I don't use Paypal anymore. Although I had not had it happen to me, I've read many stories like this over the years so I stopped accepting Paypal before it did. Seems Paypal always sides with the buyer without giving any consideration to the possibility that the buyer is just trying to rip off the seller. Paypal should not issue any refunds to the buyer until proof is shown that the supposedly defective item has been returned.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: crackedback] #3214289
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Originally Posted by crackedback
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by BigFish69
looking for some advice been scammed on a part i sold on market place paid through pay pal the scammer claim the part had a problem which it DIDN'T pay pal messaged me but i never seen the message and paypal returned the money back to him. after a month notice my account was short i got in contact with paypal to see what the problem was they said there was dispute so i said will then send me my part back after many calls to paypal they said they would send courtesy message to him. l also messaged him on face book he said he would send it back after messaging him several time and asking for tracking number he then claimed he sent it but would not produce a tracking number and now will not answer his messages.


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Please tell me it wasn’t a friends n family deal. If so you cheated the system and PayPal won’t helping you.


He SOLD the part, so the F&F thing would NOT be to his detriment. The buyer pulled a scam and issued a claim against him through goods and services payment approach.

As mentioned, have an account solely for paypal cash transfers, get money, move it to a different account right away. No money in account, nothing to take.

A bank would g3et in big trouble if they went to a separate account to claw back money at paypals request. The account they have access is the only one that should potentially be garnished. Federal Banking rules would frown on them nixing a different account.


This will damage your credibility with the banking system. As far as the bank is concerned, your account is overdrawn, and you owe them the money. That is why banks today want so much personal info to open an account that you want to give them funds to deposit. They want to be able track you down, They also have a long good memory, industry wide. You might retain the funds, for a while. Your beef here is not with the bank, and the bank always wins, in the end.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: jcc] #3214306
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Here's a simple fact: unless you deal one-on-one, face-to-face with CASH, there is ALWAYS the possibility of being scammed or for that matter, scamming! While I feel for the OP's situation, it could just as easily be him scamming the buyer.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3214318
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You have his name and address for shipping.

Can you file theft charges with his local police department?

Maybe a police investigation could light a fire for him to make it right?

Did you mail it postal mail or ups/fedex/other? There used to be mail fraud charges if it was a postal shipment. I do not know the rules for that but maybe?

Good luck.

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Never done a charge back in my life but your gonna have to take your lumps for not staying up on the transaction, payments, your emails, your PP account.

Many of us check all that stuff daily weather we even have any transactions in progress.

Not saying this situation is your fault or not your fault but imo you should of been a bit more on top of things.

This is why I say move on as it seems its just part of business in the USA as sad as it is. AND a good part of some of the costs we all pay from the scammers to the deadbeats who dont pay there CC bills.

Given that 78% of Americans admitted filing at least one chargeback over the last year, this ultimately suggests that cardholders in the US disputed a minimum of USD 65.2 billion worth of charges in 2023, on the most conservative basis, equating to USD 243.75 billion and up to factoring in Lexis Nexis’s True Cost of Fraud burden to US retailers.

I do without a lot of parts Id like to buy as I will only only only buy from someone I know of have known of for years.


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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: jcc] #3214331
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Originally Posted by jcc

That is why banks today want so much personal info to open an account that you want to give them funds to deposit.


Nope, federal banking regulations drive all of that. The bank must ask those questions, it's called know your customer.

Got a daughter that's a VP at a bank and she's filled me in on all that stuff over the years.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by jcc

That is why banks today want so much personal info to open an account that you want to give them funds to deposit.


Nope, federal banking regulations drive all of that. The bank must ask those questions, it's called know your customer.

Got a daughter that's a VP at a bank and she's filled me in on all that stuff over the years.



You drank the koolaid I see, its also why the bank can bounce a check without any time limit, or the so call "clearing', and why checks are never returned to the writer, which allows them to be bounced in the future, and make the account owner pay up.

But keep your cover story, it keeps everyone submissive and in line. biggrin


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Originally Posted by jcc
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by jcc

That is why banks today want so much personal info to open an account that you want to give them funds to deposit.


Nope, federal banking regulations drive all of that. The bank must ask those questions, it's called know your customer.

Got a daughter that's a VP at a bank and she's filled me in on all that stuff over the years.



You drank the koolaid I see, its also why the bank can bounce a check without any time limit, or the so call "clearing', and why checks are never returned to the writer, which allows them to be bounced in the future, and make the account owner pay up.

But keep your cover story, it keeps everyone submissive and in line. biggrin


Nope, I neither wear a tin foil hat nor have my head in my nether regions.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by jcc
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by jcc

That is why banks today want so much personal info to open an account that you want to give them funds to deposit.


Nope, federal banking regulations drive all of that. The bank must ask those questions, it's called know your customer.

Got a daughter that's a VP at a bank and she's filled me in on all that stuff over the years.



You drank the koolaid I see, its also why the bank can bounce a check without any time limit, or the so call "clearing', and why checks are never returned to the writer, which allows them to be bounced in the future, and make the account owner pay up.

But keep your cover story, it keeps everyone submissive and in line. biggrin


Nope, I neither wear a tin foil hat nor have my head in my nether regions.


Well consider this:

1. Anybody can be a VP at a bank

2. No VP is ever going against Government regulations and Corporate dogma in the slightest way

3. Government and the banking industry are in total lockstep on writing new regulations that serves both THEIR purposes, first and foremost.

4. The concept of "know" your customer from a bank's perspective is baloney, they only know your identity so as to be able to recoup future funds

5. The Patriot Act was a great cover for the implemented "know" the account holder regulations, and exploited here. mainly because the public is gullible enough to fall for the spoon fed "Patriotic" fight against "terrorism".

6. Prior to all this new "security" theater, a check written would be received at the depositing bank, and then physically went thru the Federal Reserve Banking system, and was "cleared" after it was received at the check writer's bank.

9. EVERY check received at the check writers bank overnight was stamped "PAID" and the correct amount was deducted from the account.

10 The next morning, any accounts overdrawn, mostly had checks marked "paid" were removed as needed to make account no longer overdrawn, stamped again "Payment canceled", the amount returned to the over drawn account, and then physically returned to originating bank.

11. That process took time and effort, and why the banking day used to end at 2:00pm

12. it was hard to achieve over long distances and put banks at risk with their arbitrary check clearing deadlines and funds holds.

13. It was also costly and inefficient, including normal stop payment protection, discovering postdated checks, fraud signatures, etc

14. Technology created new solutions.

I15. It became possible to electronically within seconds to pay processed checks and move funds nationally.

16. The banking advantage was, they could still place limited holds on funds, and collect interest during the hold, even though the funds had been withdrawn from the check writers account.

17. A further advantage was they no longer needed to physically transport a check or stamp it paid.

18. Bank customers no longer receive a physical PAID check in their monthly mailed statements anymore.

19. In days past, the Bank could no longer reverse payment on a check not in their possession

20. Any check now can be returned electronically at ANYTIME thereafter

21. The concept of checks "clearing" no longer exists

22. What in reality happens today is checks only get returned whenever needed

23. In the future, if any previous check is returned and your account becomes overdrawn, they want to be able to find you and get paid.

24. They don't care who you are as any primary concern.




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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Originally Posted by jcc


Well consider this:

1. Anybody can be a VP at a bank

2. No VP is ever going against Government regulations and Corporate dogma in the slightest way

3. Government and the banking industry are in total lockstep on writing new regulations that serves both THEIR purposes, first and foremost.

4. The concept of "know" your customer from a bank's perspective is baloney, they only know your identity so as to be able to recoup future funds

5. The Patriot Act was a great cover for the implemented "know" the account holder regulations, and exploited here. mainly because the public is gullible enough to fall for the spoon fed "Patriotic" fight against "terrorism".

6. Prior to all this new "security" theater, a check written would be received at the depositing bank, and then physically went thru the Federal Reserve Banking system, and was "cleared" after it was received at the check writer's bank.

9. EVERY check received at the check writers bank overnight was stamped "PAID" and the correct amount was deducted from the account.

10 The next morning, any accounts overdrawn, mostly had checks marked "paid" were removed as needed to make account no longer overdrawn, stamped again "Payment canceled", the amount returned to the over drawn account, and then physically returned to originating bank.

11. That process took time and effort, and why the banking day used to end at 2:00pm

12. it was hard to achieve over long distances and put banks at risk with their arbitrary check clearing deadlines and funds holds.

13. It was also costly and inefficient, including normal stop payment protection, discovering postdated checks, fraud signatures, etc

14. Technology created new solutions.

I15. It became possible to electronically within seconds to pay processed checks and move funds nationally.

16. The banking advantage was, they could still place limited holds on funds, and collect interest during the hold, even though the funds had been withdrawn from the check writers account.

17. A further advantage was they no longer needed to physically transport a check or stamp it paid.

18. Bank customers no longer receive a physical PAID check in their monthly mailed statements anymore.

19. In days past, the Bank could no longer reverse payment on a check not in their possession

20. Any check now can be returned electronically at ANYTIME thereafter

21. The concept of checks "clearing" no longer exists

22. What in reality happens today is checks only get returned whenever needed

23. In the future, if any previous check is returned and your account becomes overdrawn, they want to be able to find you and get paid.

24. They don't care who you are as any primary concern..





It's amazing how some can wear a tin foil hat while their head is in their nether regions.

Kudos to you

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by jcc


Well consider this:

1. Anybody can be a VP at a bank

2. No VP is ever going against Government regulations and Corporate dogma in the slightest way

3. Government and the banking industry are in total lockstep on writing new regulations that serves both THEIR purposes, first and foremost.

4. The concept of "know" your customer from a bank's perspective is baloney, they only know your identity so as to be able to recoup future funds

5. The Patriot Act was a great cover for the implemented "know" the account holder regulations, and exploited here. mainly because the public is gullible enough to fall for the spoon fed "Patriotic" fight against "terrorism".

6. Prior to all this new "security" theater, a check written would be received at the depositing bank, and then physically went thru the Federal Reserve Banking system, and was "cleared" after it was received at the check writer's bank.

9. EVERY check received at the check writers bank overnight was stamped "PAID" and the correct amount was deducted from the account.

10 The next morning, any accounts overdrawn, mostly had checks marked "paid" were removed as needed to make account no longer overdrawn, stamped again "Payment canceled", the amount returned to the over drawn account, and then physically returned to originating bank.

11. That process took time and effort, and why the banking day used to end at 2:00pm

12. it was hard to achieve over long distances and put banks at risk with their arbitrary check clearing deadlines and funds holds.

13. It was also costly and inefficient, including normal stop payment protection, discovering postdated checks, fraud signatures, etc

14. Technology created new solutions.

I15. It became possible to electronically within seconds to pay processed checks and move funds nationally.

16. The banking advantage was, they could still place limited holds on funds, and collect interest during the hold, even though the funds had been withdrawn from the check writers account.

17. A further advantage was they no longer needed to physically transport a check or stamp it paid.

18. Bank customers no longer receive a physical PAID check in their monthly mailed statements anymore.

19. In days past, the Bank could no longer reverse payment on a check not in their possession

20. Any check now can be returned electronically at ANYTIME thereafter

21. The concept of checks "clearing" no longer exists

22. What in reality happens today is checks only get returned whenever needed

23. In the future, if any previous check is returned and your account becomes overdrawn, they want to be able to find you and get paid.

24. They don't care who you are as any primary concern..





It's amazing how some can wear a tin foil hat while their head is in their nether regions.

Kudos to you



A profound yet impotent reponse. Your consideration on the matter is overwhelming.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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I sold a car to Mopar Jamie a decade ago, we agreed on I think $800 for the car. When he showed up he only had $300. And then he disappeared.

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Originally Posted by Devil
I sold a car to Mopar Jamie a decade ago, we agreed on I think $800 for the car. When he showed up he only had $300. And then he disappeared.


He disappeared with the car, or without?

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Originally Posted by Stanton
Here's a simple fact: unless you deal one-on-one, face-to-face with CASH, there is ALWAYS the possibility of being scammed or for that matter, scamming! While I feel for the OP's situation, it could just as easily be him scamming the buyer.


SO TRUE!

Man, selling online has become a MINEFIELD. I have had to SEROIUSLY cut back on where/how I ship. I should just do shows. even then we have to use a pen on $20s. Have never had bad ones yet (that we've kept smile ) I love when I get an order from Joe Smith at 123 Main St and his email is joesmith@yahoo.com and his phone number verifies his address on UsPhonebook.com. BUT I GET 20% OF....
- People using a credit card in Brazil then shipping to an apartment in Miami!?!?!
- People tryijng to buy in Guam, Ecudor, Nigeria, Russia. I now have all countries blocked except northern Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Japan.
- People shipping to a sketchy forwarding comany in NY thats has like a 1 star rating with complaints about scammers shipping there. I learned that lesson. People from the Middle East would sting me doing that.
- People using a credit card in one state, then shipping clear across the country. The credit card providedor I use gives me a backend look at all the data. The farther away the shipto is from the card, the higher the potential fraud.
- If I don't ship to the billing address, the credit card company will NEVER side with me no matter what. Thats their hard policy.
- Paypal doesn't give you any way of knowing if you are shipping to the billing address and they cave IMMEADIATLY to any dispute.
- Apartments. Half the shipments to aparments "never arrive". WTH is up with that? But people act like I'M the bad guy for not wanting to lose my money 50% of the time?!?!?!

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: 71TA] #3214556
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Is there any type of legal action without major cost to retrieved scammed idem's or your funds back ?

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3214587
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I have been on the other end of a couple of purchases on Ebay where parts were junk or not as advertised. I use paypal because it will refund my funds if the seller is a scammer.

In all the cases once I contracted the seller and discussed the problem there was either a full or partial refund. Not all sellers are good. I had 1 with a 99.9 positive rating send me trash and then offer to refund 10% then 20 then 25 and finally said 100 but was worried more about getting a 5 star review (which he didn't get) than the money. Some sell junk and try to get away with it or only offer to refund pennies.

Both buyer and seller have to be alert these days.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: moparmike1] #3214597
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I sold a car to Mopar Jamie a decade ago, we agreed on I think $800 for the car. When he showed up he only had $300. And then he disappeared.


He disappeared with the car, or without?


He said he was good for the rest and would send it. So I let him have the car for what he had.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: second 70] #3214645
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Originally Posted by second 70
Both buyer and seller have to be alert these days.


This.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: Devil] #3214647
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Originally Posted by Devil
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I sold a car to Mopar Jamie a decade ago, we agreed on I think $800 for the car. When he showed up he only had $300. And then he disappeared.


He disappeared with the car, or without?


He said he was good for the rest and would send it. So I let him have the car for what he had.


That's unfortunate but, and not to minimize your loss, I'm sure others have lost a lot more.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: moparmike1] #3214689
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Paying through paypal even goods and services is no help. If the buyer says they shipped the part they are done helping. Ask me how I know. Its similar to proving to the IRS you did not receive funds that someone shows they paid you. Ask me how I know.

I have been had a few times through Paypal as well as other means. I have sold alot of stuff over the years and its a crap shoot at best.


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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: Al_Alguire] #3214733
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I will never ever use PayPal Friends and Family. One and only time I did I got taken and the seller immediately blocked me after he got the money and that was that.

Last year I bought several old car items off CL out of state using postal money orders as payment with good results. Some people on CL are not interested in shipping so it doesn't always work out, but it never hurts to ask.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: Thelma133] #3214808
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your going to need a lawyer. paypal will hose you every time.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: migsBIG] #3215259
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You can take him to small claims court. I went to a private investigator for a guy who screwed me on a retaining wall. I fired his crew, he showed up and I told him to get off my property. He wouldn’t. I spent a lot of time and effort to get my money back, but am still receiving it from the crook. He also had to pay the state for screwing a senior citizen and operating without a license. A first class liar who had done this to many. If you have his address go to his house.

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he in tenn. im in michigan other wise i would go to his house i do have his address.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3218508
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Recap on the part i got scammed for. I contacted the police department in the state where the part was sent to police made a call to the scammer and BINGO he sent me back my part. A little police authority i guess is all he needed.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: 71TA] #3218543
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Originally Posted by 71TA

- If I don't ship to the billing address, the credit card company will NEVER side with me no matter what. Thats their hard policy.


This is what happens to me all the time. We have a PO box, we do not have residential delivery. Our billing address is the PO box. So I buy something on-line with a credit card and the vendor claims he won't ship to a PO box. So I put my residential address in for delivery and the PO box as the billing address. Vendor's site kicks the billing address out. So I lie to the vendor and claim my residential address is my billing address. What happens now? The vendor uses FedEx or UPS as the shipper but transfers it to the USPS as the delivery agent! So now what I ordered that could not be shipped to a PO box......arrives at my PO box. And I get another butt-chewing from the Postmaster about this. Thankfully it has happened so much that the Postmaster finally got tired of chewing on me.

This is a great example when part of the world thinks the rest of the world functions like they do.


"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3218573
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Originally Posted by BigFish69
Recap on the part i got scammed for. I contacted the police department in the state where the part was sent to police made a call to the scammer and BINGO he sent me back my part. A little police authority i guess is all he needed.


Glad you finally got it resolved, but I'm a little bit surprised the police got involved. Anyway.... up

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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: Fat_Mike] #3218597
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I am also glad you got the matter resolved.. I talked to the police about my $700 rip off and they told me there is nothing they can do. I also filed a claim with the post office since the transaction was paid for via money order , its been over a year and I haven't heard anything .


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Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: Sniper] #3218633
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I got burned by a guy that ran the Rapid Transit System club in Detroit for $400


I am not rich...but I get off my ass everyday to make sure I am not broke!

Can we get the Mexican cartels to help us with our supply chain issues? They don't seem to have any trouble getting stuff from one place to another.
Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: RobG] #3218722
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the police in michigan were i live did not want to do anything so i called police department were the scammer lived after talking to the officer he said if you got the phone number he would give him a call. He called and told him to work it out with me or face criminal charges.

Re: who been scamed on a part [Re: BigFish69] #3218727
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You are very lucky to have had the police help you out over this.

Hopefully, you don't need to go through this again.

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