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Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3206090
01/19/24 03:38 AM
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Is that a Mercury or not? confused

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Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3206117
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Originally Posted by sjs64polara
Originally Posted by dvw
Looks great. It's fun being able to race with your son. And for those who don't know. Spencer and his family know plenty about going fast.
Doug



Doug , love that photo of me racing racing Grinwald! Yes, racing is in our family blood. It’s a drug and I’m sure everyone on this forum agrees. HardcoreB, yes my brother’s Hard Limit Ford 8.00 car has me by a by a couple tenths. I’m a Mopar guy but that Ford he built is absolutely beautiful.
I’ll slow the 63 down with throttle stop and the Grid. He knows racing but doesn’t have seat time so we’ll work him in slowly
Didn’t like things done with the cage so more changes are coming. I’ll post progress pic’s

Here's a picture of my boy a few years back............ time flys. I'm very thankful he loves the sport

Hope you know I was just having fun. Both cars are very nice and very quick. Do you mind sharing any details of your current engine in another post? What do you expect out of this 'spare-parts' engine for power? Care to share any details of that here? THANKS!

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Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: HardcoreB] #3206127
01/19/24 10:03 AM
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Man, you guys do it right out there.

Always been a big fan of your 64 and this 63 is shaping up to be a nice one as well!

Great to see a father son project!

Casey FJ

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3206166
01/19/24 12:06 PM
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Small world I've seen your car run several times at Havana Il. Mike

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: Cab_Burge] #3206244
01/19/24 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by moparx
until he gets used to the car, a throttle stop or limiter might be a good idea ?
also, i like the 63's with the parts store replacement amber parking light/turn signal lenses the best.
beer
I think they all came with the yellow bulbs from the factory, not the lens work at least mine did but I was the 3rd owner in 1973 so keep that in mind shruggy



you are correct Cab.
however, there were replacement lenses made from amber plastic that used clear bulbs.
these were parts store items, but i can't tell you who made them. i'm guess there were several vendors, or maybe just one, then the lenses were packaged in whatever parts store brand your local parts store handled.

like these : https://www.ebay.com/itm/402165101390 [says it has a MOPAR part number, but is made by another manufacturer, which name i remember from way back, as a supplier to parts stores around here, and they made lenses for all makes]

beer

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3206254
01/19/24 04:03 PM
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That truck is looking great , thanks for the update . Keep us in the loop on the 63 . Gary

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3206305
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My Dad ws on the B body styling team fir the 63/64 cars. He did the rear end design of the 63 Plymouth. He also came up with the Fratzog emblem.

https://www.allpar.com/d3/history/plymouth/1963.html
Doug

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: dvw] #3206562
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Originally Posted by dvw
My Dad ws on the B body styling team fir the 63/64 cars. He did the rear end design of the 63 Plymouth. He also came up with the Fratzog emblem.

https://www.allpar.com/d3/history/plymouth/1963.html
Doug




cool history footnote Doug. up bow
beer

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: moparx] #3206610
01/20/24 06:40 PM
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Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: topside] #3206864
01/21/24 02:23 PM
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Looks like a great car. Will it ready for Memorial Day at Da Grove?

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: HardcoreB] #3208077
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Originally Posted by HardcoreB
Originally Posted by sjs64polara
Originally Posted by dvw
Looks great. It's fun being able to race with your son. And for those who don't know. Spencer and his family know plenty about going fast.
Doug



Doug , love that photo of me racing racing Grinwald! Yes, racing is in our family blood. It’s a drug and I’m sure everyone on this forum agrees. HardcoreB, yes my brother’s Hard Limit Ford 8.00 car has me by a by a couple tenths. I’m a Mopar guy but that Ford he built is absolutely beautiful.
I’ll slow the 63 down with throttle stop and the Grid. He knows racing but doesn’t have seat time so we’ll work him in slowly
Didn’t like things done with the cage so more changes are coming. I’ll post progress pic’s

Here's a picture of my boy a few years back............ time flys. I'm very thankful he loves the sport

Hope you know I was just having fun. Both cars are very nice and very quick. Do you mind sharing any details of your current engine in another post? What do you expect out of this 'spare-parts' engine for power? Care to share any details of that here? THANKS!



Yes my brothers car is a Mercury Comet Caliente
My 64 Engine is a Goodwin 620 with his -13 head machining and profiling, sheet metal manifold. Car weighs low 33xx , don’t remember exactly.
Honestly I have no clue what to expect for my sons 572. Running a big port -13 head with a cross ram will be interesting.

Did some work trimming the spring relocation kit and trimmed up the QA1 k frame.

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Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: Smoparmike] #3208176
01/25/24 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoparmike
Looks like a great car. Will it ready for Memorial Day at Da Grove?


if all the stars align .... it will be close

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3210610
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some more updates.......... engine bay ready for paint, spring hangers welded in, under side of front fenders painted, also discovered some pretty cool stickers when my son pulled out the carpet.

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Who made the spring hangers?


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spring hangers look like us car tool

and great job to Dad and Sons on this car!!


Thank you
Kiddart
Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3210923
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Man this is really looking good so far . Glad he is enjoying the build . He is definitely learning on this one . Yes like those stickers . Gary

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Originally Posted by Kiddart
spring hangers look like us car tool

and great job to Dad and Sons on this car!!


Yes, they are US Tool trimmed up. Shakle mounts are next. Who ever had the car years ago turned the mount area into Swiss cheese so we’re starting over. Then redoing the subframe connectors, they were not installed in right location nor properly. Add a few more updates to the cage then the underbody will be ready for paint.
The new KR Performance Engineering wiring hardness was delivered today. I’ll have the boy start laying out an install plan based on other cars we’ve wired with their kit. It’s a simple straight forward harness. I recommend it, they are great guys to work with.

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Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3211084
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Nice progress!

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: HardcoreB] #3211168
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I’ve been scratching my head how I’m going to activate the MSD Grid launch (dark blue) wire on this car knowing we will not have a transbrake to active it. How do you guys power the launch control feature foot braking? I’d like something simple, my 16 year old is driving so I didn’t want him flipping switches. I’m guessing he’ll foot brake around 1500 RPM……

Re: Sons 63 race car build [Re: sjs64polara] #3211206
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Switch on the brake pedal...


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