Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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What about the damage to secondary roads that normally don't have heavy weight traffic on a daily basis? Just means more expense to small communities for road maintenance, surely the manufactures will contribute for that. Oh wait they will just raise the GASOLINE tax to make up for the increased road damage repairs so the ICE's can pay for it and the EV's get a free ride. rant
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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What about the damage to secondary roads that normally don't have heavy weight traffic on a daily basis?
Just means more expense to small communities for road maintenance, surely the manufactures will contribute for that. Oh wait they will just raise the GASOLINE tax to make up for the increased road damage repairs so the ICE's can pay for it and the EV's get a free ride. rant They're also too heavy for current guardrail systems: Report on new study.
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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What about the damage to secondary roads that normally don't have heavy weight traffic on a daily basis?
Just means more expense to small communities for road maintenance, surely the manufactures will contribute for that. Oh wait they will just raise the GASOLINE tax to make up for the increased road damage repairs so the ICE's can pay for it and the EV's get a free ride. rant They're also too heavy for current guardrail systems: Report on new study. That news story is a bunch of overly dramatic crap. Ooohhhhh.... 7000 lb Rivian busts through a metal guard rail when perpendicular and traveling at 60 mph. Gee, REALLY? A Ford Focus will bust through one at the same speed. Here's an idea! Let's repeat the test with a 9000 lb 4 door 4x4 SuperDuty! I bet it takes out both rows of K rail catch barrier. The Tesla trick? It went under the rail? At a 45 degree angle? How about we try that with a low nose sedan. Mercedes GT63 comes to mind. It would tuck a bumper under that rail and lift it up, too. Those toothpicks won't stop a car when you're smashing them one at a time. I'm no EV poster boy but even I can smell the BS from here.
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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My takeaway was how well the truck survived the impact and the likelihood of limited injuries to any occupants. It also looks like the testing crew underestimated the safe distance needed for their video cameras.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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EV's are heavy as heck too, their weight it all at the bottom too, so the tires are special. Have you priced EV tires? Just another reason to never own one... Took a look at Tire Rack, 2022 Telsa S, ranged from $1300 to $2200 for a set of 4, ouch! I paid $550 for 4 tires on my 06 Mustang.
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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Goodyear did a study that came out about two years ago. Concluded 50% greater wear for evs. Some eco dorks told me Michelin was saying 15-20% greater so it was bogus. Except a quick google search revealed it was a Michelin exec taking out of his rear end before any real testing took place.
That’s my second favorite ev cult member psychobabble fallacy. Favorite is how they like to bring up how your house probably already has a dryer plug, so having a charger is no big deal. Just demonstrates their lack of understanding what is going on with electric and their devotion to making one guy super rich. “But, but, dryer plug. Dryer plug.”
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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So tire wear is mostly controlled by driving habits, accelerating, cornering and stopping, steady speed tire wear is not greatly affected by vehicle weight. So are EV drivers speed racers incognitio?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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they like to bring up how your house probably already has a dryer plug, so having a charger is no big deal. Oh yea let me open the window in my laundry room and you toss that big a$$ cable in. Oh wait, my laundry room doesn't have a window. Lucky me. My breaker box is in the garage. It should be easy to wire in a charging station. Good thing it's not on the opposite end of the house. That cable is expensive. Oh Oh, my house is already all electric and there are no open slots in the breaker box. I bet I would need a bigger service and breaker box to add that much load. Whew, good thing I have NO intention of EVER buying an EV.
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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So tire wear is mostly controlled by driving habits, accelerating, cornering and stopping, steady speed tire wear is not greatly affected by vehicle weight. So are EV drivers speed racers incognitio? no offense but wrong. The number one factor is the load, the weight. As you put more weight on a tire, it's going to wear out faster. And as I mentioned before, some of these EVs are almost 30% heavier than their counterparts.Jul 28, 2023 MORE INFO
Studies are also finding this accelerated wear is worse for the environment than tailpipe emissions LINKYHMM I can see tire debris filters / collectors in our future. Then they'll need servicing. I hear Fram's already working on a solution LOL
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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So tire wear is mostly controlled by driving habits, accelerating, cornering and stopping, steady speed tire wear is not greatly affected by vehicle weight. no offense but wrong. The number one factor is the load, the weight. As you put more weight on a tire, it's going to wear out faster. Ok, I offended, now can you back up your claim that my comment in red above is "wrong"? I omitted the word "level" above since climbing up or down a mountain for instance at a steady speed would elevate tire wear if load was increased, as a Florida resident forgive me, that is the exception here. You also know a tire sitting there with or without a load will suffer the same wear, none, until it is driven, right?
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Re: Tires on heavy EV’s wear out faster
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they like to bring up how your house probably already has a dryer plug, so having a charger is no big deal. Oh yea let me open the window in my laundry room and you toss that big a$$ cable in. Oh wait, my laundry room doesn't have a window. Lucky me. My breaker box is in the garage. It should be easy to wire in a charging station. Good thing it's not on the opposite end of the house. That cable is expensive. Oh Oh, my house is already all electric and there are no open slots in the breaker box. I bet I would need a bigger service and breaker box to add that much load. Whew, good thing I have NO intention of EVER buying an EV. That’s the type of stuff I end up explaining to people all the time. Most have zero, or less than zero, understanding of electricity. I finished out the basement and ran a wire from one end of the house to the other for a car charger. We will have a gun to our head soon enough and I didnt want to tear out everything or run it along the outside. That piece of wire cost 476 dollars, three years ago. After 8% inflation, then 4, now 3, I’m sure that same wire is 1200 bucks. Luckily I had plenty of room in the breaker box. Most people don’t have that kind of space and a 500 wire will be least of their worries. But hey, I hear if you have a dryer it’s all good.
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