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.010 under 440 main bearings? #3207284 01/22/24 06:09 PM 01/22/24 06:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart OP I Live Here
gregsdart OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	I had H series bearings, .010 under size, in my BMP block and need another set. I want a half grove, anybody have them? 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: gregsdart] #3207430 01/23/24 09:08 AM 01/23/24 09:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,087 Shelby Twp. Mi HardcoreB master
HardcoreB master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,087 Shelby Twp. Mi	I'm not sure the H series Clevite is the same as it was in the past. I'd look for other manufacturers and be open to some input from current experiences.

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: gregsdart] #3207437 01/23/24 10:04 AM 01/23/24 10:04 AM
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Ody1003 member O Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 36 PA	KING MB5116HP10 (I prefer) KING MB5116XP10

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: HardcoreB] #3207438 01/23/24 10:09 AM 01/23/24 10:09 AM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,867 MI, usa	What is differet with the HG series? I've always used MS2233HG Doug Last edited by dvw; 01/23/24 10:22 AM.

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: dvw] #3207442 01/23/24 10:12 AM 01/23/24 10:12 AM
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Brad_Haak super stock Joined: Dec 2021 Posts: 1,154 Loudoun County, VA	Another option to consider --> https://www.summitracing.com/parts/slp-119m10/make/chrysler 2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft) 1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: Brad_Haak] #3207452 01/23/24 11:08 AM 01/23/24 11:08 AM
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6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,576 Motor City	I have used everything from Clevite HG, Sealed Power and as of late King bearings. I prefer King bearings these days, they offer more of a selection to get the proper clearances as needed and come coated for not much more than Clevites uncoated bearings. Obviously, coating cost more from Clevite. I have King bearings in my latest 440 with over 55,000 on it and 5 seasons on my Hemi and they still look like new. 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: HardcoreB] #3207475 01/23/24 11:57 AM 01/23/24 11:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart OP I Live Here
gregsdart OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Originally Posted by HardcoreB I'm not sure the H series Clevite is the same as it was in the past. I'd look for other manufacturers and be open to some input from current experiences. Sean, exactly! I ordered sealed power, but don't really want a 3/4 grove, as a half grove provided the best results, according to one site. So i will fontinue to look around. Only the best when pushing things hard. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: gregsdart] #3207507 01/23/24 01:23 PM 01/23/24 01:23 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,867 MI, usa	Originally Posted by gregsdart Originally Posted by HardcoreB I'm not sure the H series Clevite is the same as it was in the past. I'd look for other manufacturers and be open to some input from current experiences. Sean, exactly! I ordered sealed power, but don't really want a 3/4 grove, as a half grove provided the best results, according to one site. So i will fontinue to look around. Only the best when pushing things hard. I've had zero issues with the 3/4 groove groove bearings. Never hurt a main in 12 years. Doug

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: dvw] #3207574 01/23/24 04:49 PM 01/23/24 04:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart OP I Live Here
gregsdart OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Originally Posted by dvw Originally Posted by gregsdart [quote=HardcoreB]I'm not sure the H series Clevite is the same as it was in the past. I'd look for other manufacturers and be open to some input from current experiences. Sean, exactly! I ordered sealed power, but don't really want a 3/4 grove, as a half grove provided the best results, according to one site. So i will fontinue to look around. Only the best when pushing things hard. I've had zero issues with the 3/4 groove groove bearings. Never hurt a main in 12 years. Thanks Doug. As I rrecall, you also use a lighter oil than I do. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: gregsdart] #3207575 01/23/24 05:02 PM 01/23/24 05:02 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA	Are you sure you don't want your rods and rod baring to have full time oiling, especially in a race motor above 5500 RPM I've used full groove main bearings in every motor I've built since the early 1070s. I now use the narrow full groove bearings on all my build, street, street and strip and race only motors. I like lots of bearing to crankshaft clearances also, .0025 + on the rods and .0030+ on the main bearings. I like and use high volume oil pumps with thin oil also, 5W20 WT or 10W30 Wt. 10 Lbs. of pressure per 1000 RPM with hot oil, IE 7500 RPM 75+Lbs oil pressure Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3207675 01/23/24 10:59 PM 01/23/24 10:59 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,867 MI, usa	Mine uses 5w25. I've had one rod bearing failure in 1000 passes. Probably my own fautt. Wheelied and bent the pan. Ran it another 20 passes. Fixed the pan but the windage tray had shattered. Put it together without it. Ran another 20 or so and it started slowing down. Continued to run it until it failed. Dumb. But no fault of the oil or the bearings in my opinion. The other 6 rod bearings and all 5 mains looked like they came out of the box. Doug

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: gregsdart] #3207685 01/24/24 12:07 AM 01/24/24 12:07 AM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon	Originally Posted by gregsdart Originally Posted by HardcoreB I'm not sure the H series Clevite is the same as it was in the past. I'd look for other manufacturers and be open to some input from current experiences. Sean, exactly! I ordered sealed power, but don't really want a 3/4 grove, as a half grove provided the best results, according to one site. So i will fontinue to look around. Only the best when pushing things hard. I'd run a 3/4 groove bearing if it was available. They were never available for the low deck stuff I was doing back in the day but they would be a good choice for an RB. The engine builder I work with prefers King bearings for Mopars these days but sometimes they are hard to find.

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3207750 01/24/24 10:21 AM 01/24/24 10:21 AM
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moparacer master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,521 PA	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge Are you sure you don't want your rods and rod baring to have full time oiling, especially in a race motor above 5500 RPM I've used full groove main bearings in every motor I've built since the early 1070s. I now use the narrow full groove bearings on all my build, street, street and strip and race only motors. I like lots of bearing to crankshaft clearances also, .0025 + on the rods and .0030+ on the main bearings. I like and use high volume oil pumps with thin oil also, 5W20 WT or 10W30 Wt. 10 Lbs. of pressure per 1000 RPM with hot oil, IE 7500 RPM 75+Lbs oil pressure Same here Cab.Full groove, No problems with bearings ever. I pretty much run the same setups as you do. Except I run a little heavier oil at those clearances. Even reused my current bearings a couple years ago when we got in a jam due to covid. 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: AndyF] #3207752 01/24/24 10:34 AM 01/24/24 10:34 AM
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gregsdart OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Originally Posted by AndyF Originally Posted by gregsdart Originally Posted by HardcoreB I'm not sure the H series Clevite is the same as it was in the past. I'd look for other manufacturers and be open to some input from current experiences. Sean, exactly! I ordered sealed power, but don't really want a 3/4 grove, as a half grove provided the best results, according to one site. So i will fontinue to look around. Only the best when pushing things hard. I'd run a 3/4 groove bearing if it was available. They were never available for the low deck stuff I was doing back in the day but they would be a good choice for an RB. The engine builder I work with prefers King bearings for Mopars these days but sometimes they are hard to find. Thanks all for the input. I ordered a set of Sealed Power 119m-10, sounds like they will do the job. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: gregsdart] #3207759 01/24/24 11:16 AM 01/24/24 11:16 AM
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HardcoreB master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,087 Shelby Twp. Mi	When I was looking for bearings on my current stuff Todd Marsh was very helpful, I bought that same '119' main bearing on his recommendation from him.

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: gregsdart] #3207867 01/24/24 05:29 PM 01/24/24 05:29 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted by gregsdart [quote=AndyF][quote=gregsdart][quote=H Thanks all for the input. I ordered a set of Sealed Power 119m-10, sounds like they will do the job. i use them to when I can get them There are other sets, both babbitt and tri metal, that work nicely also. Sorry I can't remember the brand and part #s off the top of my head now Last edited by Cab_Burge; 01/24/24 05:31 PM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: .010 under 440 main bearings? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3207877 01/24/24 06:06 PM 01/24/24 06:06 PM
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B1MAXX top fuel Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,006 Apollo, PA.	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge Originally Posted by gregsdart [quote=AndyF][quote=gregsdart][quote=H Thanks all for the input. I ordered a set of Sealed Power 119m-10, sounds like they will do the job. i use them to when I can get them There are other sets, both babbitt and tri metal, that work nicely also. Sorry I can't remember the brand and part #s off the top of my head now 142m is the babbit

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