Are cars with fake fender tags, window stickers or other fake documentation disqualified from judging?

If not, how many points are deducted for each fake?

I heard a rumor a car with a made up fender tag scored fairly high recently, so I am curious about the rules & if they address such things?

As I have mentioned before, i have seen more Concours platinum 99.5 out of 100 💩boxes be towed in after just coming off the transporter than i can remember or count. Several had the awards, plaques and trophies in the car or trunk.
one that come to mind was a 69 Shelby GT 500KR. oil leak at the LR corner of the valve cover, might have had something to do with the corner of the of the Cyl head being remade out of some kind of sealant, Then there was the noisy R/E. Once apart, appeared to has been with the titanic, Won't mention the butchered up wiring or somewhat functioning electrical items or lack of brakes. The real kicker was once the car was thought to be safe to be driven, a short trip ( ~6 blocks) revealed a horrendous vibration. had the driveshaft checked, bent of course but not enough to cause the severity of the vibration. Out comes the 4 spd, dismantling revealed what appeared to be a bunch of cast off parts that were re used. The source of the vibration????
The output shaft had been welded back together NO KIDDING. and it was far from straight. so after about 40K the car was drivable. BTW it was also LOADED with
But it was 'PURTY" and had all those approvals from experienced judges that likely weren't even born when the car was new

Hey you asked

Almost forgot about documented 409 425 64 Impala, D/A seller included the actual build sheet with all the other doc's ( forged?) Build sheet decoded to a 282 2 barrel powerglide car. that's the short version

Well, all that Shelby had to do for its awards was sit still & look pretty, right ?
I'd bet that a lot of trophy-hunt cars are only good for that, and a trailer might be the only way for them to go anywhere without problems.

As for Barry's question: are judges trained to verify the authenticity of documentation ?
Is there more value to the show or another entity to avoid pointing out creative documentation ?
On a genuine, not re-bodied car, If its valid original documentation exists, is an accurate reproduction of that documentation for aesthetic purposes really fake ?
(I hope I'm clearly understood on that description - I don't want a stone-throwing contest, just clarity.)

Due to the politics involved, I bet the required balls to publicly state the facts aren’t in the house. Until the guy with the biggest wallet makes such things an issue, they won’t be.

that question has crossed my mind a few times, and i believe it also applies to ISCA winners as well............

This data on this tag was made up from scratch, so evidently no original documentation existed?

If what I heard is true about who owns the car, he has posted ads hoping to find a broadcast sheet for it in the past.

John is it okay if I grab some popcorn and a seat over here too ----->>> Hey don't forget decals and paint markings and tire date codes and power steering fluid color too.

Who shooting for that "Mopar Police" T shirt this Christmas?

A friend of mine restored a 70 HemiCuda with the intention of earning OE Gold. He achieved his goal. I can assure you, in his case it was all legit. No skid greasing, no knowing the right people, nothing sleazy. He earned it and the car deserved it.

Barry - I'm not referring to a particular car, just speaking in general.
I don't even know which car brought the question up.

So who decides what's "fake"?

The judge who should be qualified but is likely a keyboard/car club hero. Had a highly regarded upper level individual in the national Oldsmobile / 442 club sell a "Freshly rebuilt tris power set up to a customer for an obscene amount of $$. The carbs looked nice until one opened them up to discover all the missing parts like jets, needles (hey the seats were there), and the 30? + year old crud in the bottom of the bowls. He accused me of lying so I provided pic's taken before and during the disassembly. he went silent after that

BTW here's a pic of the patched cylinder head I mentioned earlier, whadd'ya want or expect for 180K ? ( it was a few yeas back)

At several shows I have judged at a fake piece of documentation loses the entire sum of that category's points. If the owner has the original with him and shows it to the judge that is a different story...

I don't know much about, nor follow OE judging cars. When we say "Fake" documentation, does that mean a photocopy of an original build sheet or a made up fantasy sheet with options added? Would an exact reproduction fender tag replacing a rusted one be considered fake? I respect the work that goes into OE type cars, but I much prefer good ol Hot Rods!

Okay, let me pose this question. An individual enters his car and states up front that the fender tag is a reproduction that he cannot verify. Do we just take that into account for the judging or do we start building the scaffold?

Both ???

If the owner stated that to me I would kindly tell him he needs to go have his car judged with the modified cars.

One year at E town I judged a very nice B body convertible, I think it was a 69 GTX , anywho the car was done very well and the line on the sheet asked about the paint code on the tag, if present, the car was a very nice base clear B5 blue, the tag called out Y2 Sunfire yellow, I entered a ZERO on the sheet ... the owner of the car was none to happy with me that day ....