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The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine #3189337
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the words "LS 318" had be confused when I watched Vice Grip Garage's video on the giveaway duster build. The Engine Builder has started dropping video's to youtube and I'm very intrigued. Rods from a Viper, custom pistons, MP Stroker crank, and LS rockers...I'm genuinely interested in seeing the next two video's in the series.


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: shanker] #3189392
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I saw a recent episode of Roadworthy Rescues where Derek ended up using that motor in a '66 Coronet that he picked up. He did mention, but kind of breezed over the LS rocker arms on aluminum heads. I've been waiting for more info to come out on this... drinking

Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: Fat_Mike] #3189447
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Originally Posted by Fat_Mike
I saw a recent episode of Roadworthy Rescues where Derek ended up using that motor in a '66 Coronet that he picked up. He did mention, but kind of breezed over the LS rocker arms on aluminum heads. I've been waiting for more info to come out on this... drinking
Yes I saw this too. I was disappointed TBH. All Mopar or nothing for me.


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: larrymopar360] #3189472
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Is "LS" the new must have sales term these days? Seems like everyone is sticking an "LS" into their ads, any way they can.

Pretty long reach to call a 318 an "LS" motor because you used the rocker arms from one of those motors.

grin The next thing in line will be painting "LS" on the valve covers and telling people its an LS motor because it says so right there on the valve covers. grin

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Originally Posted by poorboy
Is "LS" the new must have sales term these days? Seems like everyone is sticking an "LS" into their ads, any way they can.

Pretty long reach to call a 318 an "LS" motor because you used the rocker arms from one of those motors.

grin The next thing in line will be painting "LS" on the valve covers and telling people its an LS motor because it says so right there on the valve covers. grin
"LS THE WORLD"!!!! sick


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: poorboy] #3189489
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Originally Posted by poorboy
Is "LS" the new must have sales term these days? Seems like everyone is sticking an "LS" into their ads, any way they can.

Pretty long reach to call a 318 an "LS" motor because you used the rocker arms from one of those motors.

grin The next thing in line will be painting "LS" on the valve covers and telling people its an LS motor because it says so right there on the valve covers. grin


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: Rhinodart] #3189490
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
Originally Posted by poorboy
Is "LS" the new must have sales term these days? Seems like everyone is sticking an "LS" into their ads, any way they can.

Pretty long reach to call a 318 an "LS" motor because you used the rocker arms from one of those motors.

grin The next thing in line will be painting "LS" on the valve covers and telling people its an LS motor because it says so right there on the valve covers. grin


You mean just like the Chevy, Toyota, and Ford Hemi's in Top Fuel and Funny Car...LOL.. laugh2


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: slantzilla] #3189628
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Exactly, why don’t they put their P O S engines in their cars and see if they can even win one race with them!

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I watched the video and he ready didnt go into a lot of detail about the engine. I just sat there and asked myself why. With all of the parts available to built a strong 318 it just seems like the long way to do it.

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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: stickman] #3189682
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I never new that Viper rods were even a thing in small blocks...doing a search I came across a thread on FABO, but it wasn't very detail heavy.


I'm still a believer that we should support hot rodders doing hot rod stuff. It'll help keep vigor in the hobby into the future. The LS Rocker thing is a little boring to me since I don't understand the advantage.


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: shanker] #3189763
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Is "LS" the new must have sales term these days?

Evey time i here it on any show i say to myself "F THAT CHEBY S#!T"!

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LS rockers are 1.7 ratio and cheap I believe. I have aftermarket Chevy 1.65 ratio rockers on my Magnum heads. Readily available and relatively cheap.


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: stickman] #3189905
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Originally Posted by stickman
I watched the video and he ready didnt go into a lot of detail about the engine. I just sat there and asked myself why. With all of the parts available to built a strong 318 it just seems like the long way to do it.

Derick goes into detail on the engine in an earlier video. HGis whole point was to build it on the cheap with used stuff.


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I'm glad I'm not the only one who's sick of "LS this "and "LS that".
I e never owned a GM anything, I'm so sick n tired of people who think they have to swap an LS into anything that moves.
There used to be a Durango owned by an employee there parked at white Castle all the time that was hand painted/lettered across the back that claimed it was powered by LS. If you want something to stick an LS into, BUY A DAMN CHEVY TO BEGIN WITH. There's threads at other MOPAR forums I frequent, about a 75 dart and a few about Dakota's that have been polluted under the hood by LS swaps. I'm a Mopar guy, have been all my life, I don't want to hear about anything LS.

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"Derick goes into detail on the engine in an earlier video. HGis whole point was to build it on the cheap with used stuff."

Budget and Cheap are two words that are very subjective. These two words have a different meaning when coming from a sunday morning cable TV show or a successful big time youtuber than they do to the dude punching a time clock. But it is entertaining.


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Keep the world salad folks and LS and the related in the gm cars imo.... youtube continues to make dumb people dumber. Most of the blah blah blah junk gets the most hits but yet much of the informative/tech/learning vids stay low on viewership.

Clearly its more of an entertainment type setting then not. The best part is we can decide what we want to watch.


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: Moparite] #3190264
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Originally Posted by Moparite
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Is "LS" the new must have sales term these days?

Evey time i here it on any show i say to myself "F THAT CHEBY S#!T"!
up up up


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Re: The VGG Giveaway Duster with the *LS* 318 engine [Re: larrymopar360] #3190393
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LS rocker arms are inexpensive. That's a fact. But how much will those machined adaptors cost in order to run the LS Rocker arms? I bet those adapters cost more than a new complete set of ultra expensive Harland sharp rocker arms that are already made for the SBM head. Is this conversion considered cheap because it cost the YouTube content creator nothing to have them made to work?


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Since Chrysler, Ford and GM
“mixed and matched”
executives and engineers
(Walter Chrysler from GM, Lee Iacocca form Ford)
I see nothing “sinful” about
mixing and matching OEM parts
especially at more reasonable prices than custom prices.

Moparts has had this discussion about dependable electric cooling fans from salvage yards.

Moparts has had the discussion -
- what is the “True As Measured in Place Ratio” of a Magnum 1.6 AMC style rocker arm?
(1.67 in my fuzzy memory)

I would like to know:
who makes the “best fit and durability” sodium filled exhaust valve?

Doesn’t GM sell the lowest price OEM Titanium intake valve?




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