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Re: Batteries - That time of year again. [Re: 360view] #3187624
10/30/23 12:59 PM
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i'm using a walmart battery that has a 2011 date on it in my charger. biggrin
starts just fine.
i used one of those pulse chargers to bring it back to life.
negative cable disconnected when parked. won't say how long this thing will last. just surprised it works.
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Re: Batteries - That time of year again. [Re: moparx] #3187658
10/30/23 03:09 PM
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I use both BatteryMINDers and CTEKs, and I think most or all of my car batteries are dry-cell types now. I just leave them plugged in.

i can kill any battery by neglecting it for too long. Haven't had much luck bringing them back, though, even with fancy Schumacher and Optima chargers.

When I need to jump start something I haul out the old Sears buzz box....

Re: Batteries - That time of year again. [Re: ackpht] #3187745
10/30/23 09:48 PM
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I use the CTEK MUS 4.3 POLAR battery charger/maintainer. Works great. thumbs.

https://smartercharger.ca/collections/car-battery-chargers/products/ctek-nus-4-3-polar

Re: Batteries - That time of year again. [Re: ackpht] #3187818
10/31/23 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ackpht
I use both BatteryMINDers and CTEKs, and I think most or all of my car batteries are dry-cell types now. I just leave them plugged in.

i can kill any battery by neglecting it for too long. Haven't had much luck bringing them back, though, even with fancy Schumacher and Optima chargers.

When I need to jump start something I haul out the old Sears buzz box....


In my 5 vehicles I run Optima Red Tops in each, for the last 20 years typical life is about 8 years but I have gone as long as 12 years.
I did leave the interior lite ON by accident in one and the Optima ran down 10V tried to revive with my $125 Sears smart charger but no success.
Decided to try an Optima charger and the battery came right back up to normal..

Just my $0.02... wink

Re: Batteries - That time of year again. [Re: GomangoCuda] #3187879
10/31/23 04:27 PM
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The over the counter Mopar battery was dying this summer. Its only been in the car since 2011. And it has had a tender on it whenever not being driven.


I broke down and bought a Autozone battery about 2 months back. Useing one of the ebay batter cap / decal kits . I like the look. And if it gets parked more than a few days. I have a NoCo tender on it.

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Re: Batteries - That time of year again. [Re: ackpht] #3187974
11/01/23 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ackpht
Haven't had much luck bringing them back, though, even with fancy Schumacher and Optima chargers.


Since trying to recover bad lead acid batteries since 1975
my guess is that a success is way less than 50%

The quote above about professional reclaimers being successful at getting 30% in a sellable condition sounds about right.

It is a more successful “investment” of time and money to treat a new & well made lead acid battery “right” and stretch its life out by 30% to 60%

This is even more true of Lithium ion batteries.

Elon Musk says that it is a rule of thumb that Tesla’s well made Li batteries still degrade by 6% per year.

On my 2016 Google Pixel XL by using the Accubattery App and not charging the 3450 ma-hr above 68% of original capacity,
and charging before it drops below 20%
the Accubattery App calculates that the “Linear Regression Trend Line” shows 2.6% decline per year and this old battery still has 75% of original capacity.
A 2600 ma-hr battery is still fine for the non gaming way I use a cell phone.

Same on 12V Milwaukee Tools Li batteries.
The original small 1.6 amp-hr batteries that came with my first tools are nearly shot
because I repeatedly charged them to 100% after uses
and let them sit there long storage periods,
but the expensive (!) 6.0 amp hour and 9.0 amp hour batteries that I let sit at 60% charge between uses
still are around 90%.

Battery Tool makers list price Li batteries like
Printer companies list price ink cartridges.

Musk has also said that it is a rough rule of thumb that 94% of the amp-hours it takes to recharge an old Li battery is an estimate of what the remaining discharge capacity is.




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