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Street Legal "Racing"
#3172633
09/03/23 06:13 PM
09/03/23 06:13 PM
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Bitopia
jcc
OP
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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OP
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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Haven't read anything here about this relatively new format. Not sure it's considered real racing and why I posted it here.
it's something relatively new in the LA area it seems, It's for street legal insured mufflered non trailered cars on 1/16 mile, with walls and generous shut off area.
its objective is to reduce illegal street racing.
It sounds like a good idea, I'm sure some bozo will figure out how to cause his or another's death by unlimited stupidity, but at least the general public will be spared high speed chases, etc.
I'd like to see if they at least require helmets and a 3-point worn seat belt.
I like it for what it is and can't see any real harm with this early experiment.
It's kind of like legalizing bordellos without the moral aspect.
What say you?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: jcc]
#3172641
09/03/23 06:51 PM
09/03/23 06:51 PM
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pittsburghracer
"Little"John
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"Little"John
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1/16 mile I’ll say it’s stupid.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: pittsburghracer]
#3172643
09/03/23 07:03 PM
09/03/23 07:03 PM
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Super Spudsville
Mr PotatoHead
Half Baked
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Half Baked
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Ha ha ha...My driveway is longer. What an insult to car guys.
I think well stick to real street racing out here in the sticks.
Looks like the bowling alley for kids with the side bumpers up.
STOP POTATO HATE!
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: jcc]
#3172645
09/03/23 07:13 PM
09/03/23 07:13 PM
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Posts: 15,855
Central Florida
larrymopar360
Stud Muffin
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Stud Muffin
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Central Florida
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Haven't read anything here about this relatively new format. Not sure it's considered real racing and why I posted it here.
it's something relatively new in the LA area it seems, It's for street legal insured mufflered non trailered cars on 1/16 mile, with walls and generous shut off area.
its objective is to reduce illegal street racing.
It sounds like a good idea, I'm sure some bozo will figure out how to cause his or another's death by unlimited stupidity, but at least the general public will be spared high speed chases, etc.
I'd like to see if they at least require helmets and a 3-point worn seat belt.
I like it for what it is and can't see any real harm with this early experiment.
It's kind of like legalizing bordellos without the moral aspect.
What say you?
The idea itself seems like a potentially good one to stop street racing. I don't think it will really make a dent in pursuits though as most are not from street racing. I do think it would need to be a 1/4 as others have written. The other concern has got to be liability. Someone will sue the property owner after there's a crash with injury, whether the owner be a private individual who allows this use or a government.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: larrymopar360]
#3172647
09/03/23 07:15 PM
09/03/23 07:15 PM
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Posts: 4,672
Wichita
GY3
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Small towns in my area are adding street drags to their town festivals.
It brings lots of cars and interest.
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: GY3]
#3172660
09/03/23 08:17 PM
09/03/23 08:17 PM
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A collage of whims
topside
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You have to consider locations, targeted participants, and the lower speeds - for the non-racer bureaucrats whose approval is necessary - and almost certainly, insurability.
1/16th mile (330 ft) is like the old top-of-2nd-gear deal back in the day: in some urban/suburban areas, that was about all the room you had, and if you'd gapped the other guy and were pulling away, you won.
So yeah, while it seems a bit short & silly, it's better than a lot of street scenarios.
Might even become a training ground/feeder of some sort for the 1/8 and 1/4 tracks & events.
I used to think 1/8-mile was weak; but I find it OK now, and it's arguably easier on parts.
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: jcc]
#3172663
09/03/23 08:31 PM
09/03/23 08:31 PM
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Posts: 12,073
Benton, IL.
DaveRS23
Special needs idiot
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Special needs idiot
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This 'format' is probably not aimed at us guys. More to the younger ones that like 'roll racing' and the like. This one might be a step up from that. At least this seems to have a hole shot and reaction time that requires some amount of skill. Doesn't it? Roll racing doesn't seem to take any real skill at all. Or am I missing something?
Master, again and still
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: TJP]
#3172705
09/03/23 10:41 PM
09/03/23 10:41 PM
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Posts: 22,696
Bitopia
jcc
OP
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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Thinking a little more about this racing format proposed, seems like winning combos would be 4-wheel drive, big tire, lots of torque, and ignore all aero?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: jcc]
#3172715
09/04/23 12:47 AM
09/04/23 12:47 AM
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Posts: 4,720
Moved to N.E. Tennessee
GomangoCuda
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Thinking a little more about this racing format proposed, seems like winning combos would be 4-wheel drive, big tire, lots of torque, and ignore all aero? Hellcat Grand Cherokee?
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: GomangoCuda]
#3172725
09/04/23 07:13 AM
09/04/23 07:13 AM
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Greenville, PA
redraptor
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Thinking a little more about this racing format proposed, seems like winning combos would be 4-wheel drive, big tire, lots of torque, and ignore all aero? Hellcat Grand Cherokee? Tesla Plaid. 
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: justinp61]
#3172730
09/04/23 08:13 AM
09/04/23 08:13 AM
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Posts: 10,713
North Dakota
6PakBee
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I Live Here
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North Dakota
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So, they are running about the equivalent of a city block? They probably aren't looking to get guys who race at the strip to show up, just the kids who are racing light to light. Stoplight to stoplight.
"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: Moparite]
#3172787
09/04/23 11:37 AM
09/04/23 11:37 AM
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pittsburghracer
"Little"John
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"Little"John
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Almost as bad as that yaa who on YouTube with a small block Mopar TrickFlow engine. He runs at some super short track and neglects to tell people it’s not anywhere close to an 1/8 mile
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Street Legal "Racing"
[Re: topside]
#3172836
09/04/23 02:04 PM
09/04/23 02:04 PM
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Posts: 21,507
N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
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Too Many Posts
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You have to consider locations, targeted participants, and the lower speeds - for the non-racer bureaucrats whose approval is necessary - and almost certainly, insurability.
1/16th mile (330 ft) is like the old top-of-2nd-gear deal back in the day: in some urban/suburban areas, that was about all the room you had, and if you'd gapped the other guy and were pulling away, you won.
So yeah, while it seems a bit short & silly, it's better than a lot of street scenarios.
Might even become a training ground/feeder of some sort for the 1/8 and 1/4 tracks & events.
I used to think 1/8-mile was weak; but I find it OK now, and it's arguably easier on parts.
Agree, and still better than not having it, stupid and silly as it might seem. With it in place the local law for "street drag racing" should be really enforced and the fine doubled or tripled.
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