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66 belvedere still won't start #316973
05/13/09 12:40 PM
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my brothers 66 440 belvedere won't start. it is doing the same thing as when we started. parts that were changed to new. battery, starter, relay and positive cable. i can see the starter is engaging the flywheel and trying to turn but it won't turn the engine at all. any suggestions? i need this out of my garage and up for sale. thanks!

Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316974
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it started right up after winter storage and a day later this is what going on.

Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316975
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Try turnubg it by hand.See if it turns over that way.Does the starter engage when you hit the key and not crank?Ive seen new parts bad.Make sure the cable connections are all tight and the ground is good.Rocky


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Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316976
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with a 1&1/4" socket/breaker bar & the right length extension see if the crank will move. Need to narrow down to either the eng is locked up or an electrical issue


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Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: therocks] #316977
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Try turnubg it by hand.See if it turns over that way.Does the starter engage when you hit the key and not crank?Ive seen new parts bad.Make sure the cable connections are all tight and the ground is good.Rocky



yea i can see the starter engage but doesn't turn the flywheel. we have turned the engine over by hand no problem.

Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: RapidRobert] #316978
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Yeah make sure the engine will turn. pull the plugs it will make it easier. If water some how worked into the cylinders it could be seized.


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Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316979
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when the starter engages on the flywheel it tries to turn but just hits the flywheel teeth like a woodpecker hits a tree.

Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316980
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we have turned the engine over by hand no problem.


Pull the starter out & bench test it & problably get another one.


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Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316981
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it will turn by hand.

Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: RapidRobert] #316982
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we have turned the engine over by hand no problem.


Pull the starter out & bench test it & problably get another one.



ugh. i guess we will try that. but it is doing the same thing as the big old starter
and it sucks getting the starter out with headers.

Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316983
05/13/09 02:12 PM
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Check the Ground. Clean it if you have to or add another one from the battery to the block as well as one from the block to the frame.

Also possible the starter nose cone broke and is in the way when trying to start.

Also check your other connections. I had a starter pos cable nut back off at the starter that did what you are experiencing.


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Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: HealthServices] #316984
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thanks guys........ negative battery cable. live and learn. mike

Re: 66 belvedere still won't start [Re: mike_vango] #316985
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Very common to over look. You are not the first.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.






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