Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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Well, the Mopar pins are at .500" too so your screwed which ever way you go. Correct except for Robb Robb mc, LINKY and Brewers pins which are sized correctly. My error was twofold, 1. I did not think about the BH side of the dowel which also has to be reduced. That error pushed the offset portion into the block enough to seize it. but fortunately only on the lower accessible pin. The never seize may have helped 2. Again not thinking things through I installed the pins with the offset 180 degrees out of where they should have been. again. I am happy to say the new pins are in and the BH is +/- .0035 which is within spec. Amazing how easy things can be when you think things through Will try for the clutch etc tomorrow
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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I'm confused. +/- .0035". Is that 0.0035" TIR or 0.007" TIR?
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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Sucks, but I really think all the new stuff was only way to get to a resolution here.
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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I'm confused. +/- .0035". Is that 0.0035" TIR or 0.007" TIR? .007 TIR. previously at .022 TIR Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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Well, the Mopar pins are at .500" too so your screwed which ever way you go. I know you love a good fight , even when you are wrong ... the mopar pins are NOT .500 ... the aftermarket has been selling the wrong ones forever .
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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Well, the Mopar pins are at .500" too so your screwed which ever way you go. I know you love a good fight , even when you are wrong ... the mopar pins are NOT .500 ... the aftermarket has been selling the wrong ones forever . They are .496"
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mop-1122532Brand: Mopar Replacement Manufacturer's Part Number: 1122532 Part Type: Bellhousing Dowel Pins Product Line: Mopar Replacement Transmission Housing Dowel Pins Summit Racing Part Number: MOP-1122532 Dowel Pin Offset (in.): None Dowel Pin Length (in.): 0.750 in. Dowel Pin Diameter (in.):0.500 in.Quantity: Sold individually.
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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Regardless of what Summit says, it's been documented here in prior threads that .496 is the correct size. Sniper, Directly from Brewer's site
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mop-1122532Brand: Mopar Replacement Manufacturer's Part Number: 1122532 Part Type: Bellhousing Dowel Pins Product Line: Mopar Replacement Transmission Housing Dowel Pins Summit Racing Part Number: MOP-1122532 Dowel Pin Offset (in.): None Dowel Pin Length (in.): 0.750 in. Dowel Pin Diameter (in.):0.500 in.Quantity: Sold individually. still WRONG ....
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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Clutch and trans are installed, Z bar still not straight across or level. The motor mount studs on the L and bolt on the R are all the way down on both sides. I have discovered the motor is not sitting level (leaning to the L (drivers side). The mounts and K frame appear correct. If I raise the L side and level the motor it helps a lot with the Z bar leveling out but I am puzzled as to why it's sitting so low on both sides and how to raise the L side other than shimming it up. Normally one can "rock" the motor to level it on the mounts but in this case they are both at the bottom so the rocking idea's not going to work. Maybe it's a BB dart thing ? has anyone run into this before? I can 1. Shim the motor till it's level which appears to be the root cause. 2. Move one of the Z bar ball studs, but I really prefer to find a correct the root cause A couple of pic's of the K frame and Mounts that are in the car. Note the R mount has limited adjustment with one long bolt while the L has a lot with the slotted holes in the k frame that the studs go through Any suggestions/ comments/ experiences? Thanks
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Re: New clutch, SEVERE Chatter from a stop. SOME UPDATES
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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mop-1122532Brand: Mopar Replacement Manufacturer's Part Number: 1122532 Part Type: Bellhousing Dowel Pins Product Line: Mopar Replacement Transmission Housing Dowel Pins Summit Racing Part Number: MOP-1122532 Dowel Pin Offset (in.): None Dowel Pin Length (in.): 0.750 in. Dowel Pin Diameter (in.):0.500 in.Quantity: Sold individually. still WRONG .... Just telling you how they are listed, won't be the first time they sold something that didn't fit and I am not going to buy a set to see if the listing is wrong.
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