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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: proshiftcharger]
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08/09/23 05:59 AM
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JERICOGTX
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I am hoping you guys who have used or is currently using these tubular k-members can chime in and offer some advice. I have a 72 Dodge Charger and Im trying to make a decision on a tubular K-member with rack and pinion.
The Charger is a street/strip car. I've been looking at QA1, Magnum Force, RMS Suspensions/Alterktion and Tory Shellehamer.
Out of these 4 companies currently making tubular k members with rack and pinion steering who has the best proven reputation in regard to strength/durability, overall fit and performance?
Thank you!
You couldn't pay me to install a Magnum Farce front end on a car... Does Shellehamer make a K member for B bodies? I know he does A body stuff.
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68 Road Runner
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: JERICOGTX]
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08/09/23 08:00 AM
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Tory does not make a b-body k. He said he can't keep up with the a-body orders. We put the latest AJE k on Larry Boyd's GTX and its working out great.
Last edited by fbs63; 08/09/23 08:02 AM.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: Stanton]
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08/09/23 10:27 AM
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I have a Alterkation on my Valiant wagon , it is a tried and true setup , I aligned the front , its almost ready to hit the track , everyone likes them ..
I think his communication skills lack a lot , and its not a very fancy looking piece. surprised at all he has made, can't get a mandrel tubing bender .
On my 67 I bought one from Gerst , he was great to deal with , its a nice piece, sold out to qa1 , I can't say if anything changed since that or not .. mine is great
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: bigdad]
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08/09/23 02:56 PM
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I have an AlterKation in my street/strip Challenger. I like it due to some weight savings, I am able to run a flat bottom 10 qt top fuel dragster type pil pan with plenty of ground clearances. It allowed me to weld up my 4 piece Super Comp Headers up as 1 piece units and they go in from underneath with the engine installed in minutes not having torsion bars to deal with. And, in my case it was all free to me. Long story.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: Dragula]
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08/10/23 07:58 AM
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Well, at 138mph, its so smooth its not funny...Try that with a 50 year old OEM front end. Yes, they handle better, drive better, steering is more precise. I can think of quite a few OEM front-ends used by members on this site that are a good bit faster with no troubles. Dartin, Alguire, Casey, DVW to name a few.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: HardcoreB]
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08/10/23 08:18 AM
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Well, at 138mph, its so smooth its not funny...Try that with a 50 year old OEM front end. Yes, they handle better, drive better, steering is more precise. I can think of quite a few OEM front-ends used by members on this site that are a good bit faster with no troubles. Dartin, Alguire, Casey, DVW to name a few. I made my own K member with rack and Pinion. Uses stock ball joints, Upper and lower arms. Even uses stock torsion bars. Car goes 148mph, and isn't a problem at all.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: HardcoreB]
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08/10/23 09:17 AM
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Well, at 138mph, its so smooth its not funny...Try that with a 50 year old OEM front end. Yes, they handle better, drive better, steering is more precise. I can think of quite a few OEM front-ends used by members on this site that are a good bit faster with no troubles. Dartin, Alguire, Casey, DVW to name a few. Seems to me some of those named, run strut cars, and nothing remotely OEM.....But go OEM I don't care, I get no deals on any of the units available. I can tell you, they are a very nice alternative to OEM for a lot of reasons. Including, better drivability. Next go around, I may even switch manufacturer's just because of the way they designed it and it would help for even more for header clearance than my current two setups.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: Dragula]
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08/10/23 09:19 AM
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Well, at 138mph, its so smooth its not funny...Try that with a 50 year old OEM front end. Yes, they handle better, drive better, steering is more precise. My dart has been almost 135 with a factory front end with no ill effects or surprises, straight as a string.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: Dragula]
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08/10/23 12:13 PM
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Well, at 138mph, its so smooth its not funny...Try that with a 50 year old OEM front end. Yes, they handle better, drive better, steering is more precise. I can think of quite a few OEM front-ends used by members on this site that are a good bit faster with no troubles. Dartin, Alguire, Casey, DVW to name a few. Seems to me some of those named, run strut cars, and nothing remotely OEM.....But go OEM I don't care, I get no deals on any of the units available. I can tell you, they are a very nice alternative to OEM for a lot of reasons. Including, better drivability. Next go around, I may even switch manufacturer's just because of the way they designed it and it would help for even more for header clearance than my current two setups. My 64 Plymouth is 100% stock front end, rebuilt but all factory mother Mopar, other than the strange brakes. It is smooth as butter at 154mph. Even after its 3' wheelies at the hit. I have had three different folks drive it and they all comment how smooth the car is, like driving a caddy. I also have a strut car and a tube front end car. the 64 is the smoothest by far.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
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08/10/23 12:34 PM
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Well, at 138mph, its so smooth its not funny...Try that with a 50 year old OEM front end. Yes, they handle better, drive better, steering is more precise. My dart has been almost 135 with a factory front end with no ill effects or surprises, straight as a string. My '63 330 has been 133mph. Same with it. Straight and smooth!
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Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: MoonshineMattK]
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08/10/23 12:48 PM
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Has there ever been a quantifiable before and after handling test preformed on these kits? I have worked on a charger with complete tubular front and rear suspension. Other than the brake upgrade and possible header clearance is there a handling benefit? I would think upper control arms allowing aggressive alignment specs would do the trick. Handling isn't the reason to switch. The factory Mopar setup works better for handling than the coil over and rack setups. The coil over and rack conversions are for space and weight. That is why drag racers convert to coil over and rack, or the higher buck ones go with a strut setup. Corner carvers stay with the factory torsion bar suspension since it works fine up to roughly 150 mph.
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Re: Tubular K Member with Rack & Pinion
[Re: AndyF]
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08/10/23 04:40 PM
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bigdad
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Matter of one's preference
Everyone is this topic (about once a month) has to badger those that prefer a aftermarket one .
Maybe let people make their own choices
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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