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How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? #316392
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Just wanting to know what some of the most impressive W9 combos that you know of, made? Can be RP or standard, as long as you can still find some of this stuff and it works in a drag race application. I don't want some one-off pieces that you can't find anywhere like some of the W8 stuff. I'm going to be in the parts collecting stage of my car again soon, and I would just like a proven combo to start tracking down pieces if I come across them. I don't want to re-invent the wheel. Thanks!

Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: dustyhof] #316393
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Im going to dyno with one in a few days. Its a 347inch with a hogan intake. Should make close to well we will see. I will sell the top half if interested. The intake is for a 9 inch block.

Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: dustyhof] #316394
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Mine is a fairly mild set up and it makes like 720hp
with a single 1050. I could use a bigger cam and more
carb at 405ci

Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: HMcCandless_Jr] #316395
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Not quite ready yet. Need to get it back together here in the next few weeks with my existing motor. Then I'll start putting some money away for some deals if I come across them. Just want a direction to go in. Thank you! Let me know what you come up with on the dyno! Anybody else want to chime in?

Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #316396
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Mine is a fairly mild set up and it makes like 720hp
with a single 1050. I could use a bigger cam and more
carb at 405ci




What do you think it would make if you turned up the wick? Is more stroke and bigger cubes better? It looks pretty easy to get 440+ cubes with a race block.

Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: dustyhof] #316397
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What do you think it would make if you turned up the wick? Is more stroke and bigger cubes better? It looks pretty easy to get 440+ cubes with a race block.




I'm sure I can get close to 800hp with the same ci
I have, but I need about .100 more lift and another
1050 on a sheet medal tunnel. I have a 112 CL cam
and would like to keep that because I run E-85, I
could go up on duration a tad for more revs
EDIT
I should say that I'm not even done tuning my currant
set up, it needs more timing and maybe more fuel

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Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #316398
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800 HP? ET calculator says 9.40's @ 2900 lbs. I could handle that! What bore and stroke do you have Mike? Are your heads CNC ported?

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Most of the WOO stuff is making well over 800hp with the W9RP on Alcohol, but it wouldn't make that power aspirated. The RP stuff doesn't seem to perform on gasoline.

How much power is going to be dictated by how many cubes and how hard you're prepared to turn it.

Have you looked into a complete R5/P7 deal?

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Just wanting to know what some of the most impressive W9 combos that you know of, made? Can be RP or standard, as long as you can still find some of this stuff and it works in a drag race application. I don't want some one-off pieces that you can't find anywhere like some of the W8 stuff. I'm going to be in the parts collecting stage of my car again soon, and I would just like a proven combo to start tracking down pieces if I come across them. I don't want to re-invent the wheel. Thanks!




What one off stuff? Other than valve covers what is unique to a W8 vs. W9? I've seen WOO/RP/Alcohol stuff make over 900HP. 700-800HP w/ Nascar W8's is very obtainable, CFE's will get you over 900HP.

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Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: dustyhof] #316401
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Just wanting to know what some of the most impressive W9 combos that you know of, made? Can be RP or standard, as long as you can still find some of this stuff and it works in a drag race application. I don't want some one-off pieces that you can't find anywhere like some of the W8 stuff. I'm going to be in the parts collecting stage of my car again soon, and I would just like a proven combo to start tracking down pieces if I come across them. I don't want to re-invent the wheel. Thanks!


I dont have any dyno # but i built a 4" stroke 4.185 bore w 9 that has run 8.88 in a 2800 cuda with a rons injection

Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: LA360] #316402
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When I mean N/A, I mean no turbo, nitrous, or supercharger. Alcohol would be fine. Seems like lots of guys have good luck with methanol as long as you educate yourself to using it. The P7 thing seemed a bit too exotic for me. I thought with the R5 block, you were limited to a short stroke. I don't want to turn it a bazillion RPM. 7500-8000 max to make it live? I was thinking a bit more stroke to make more torque. I haven't heard of any XR/P7 combos yet.

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800 HP? ET calculator says 9.40's @ 2900 lbs. I could handle that! What bore and stroke do you have Mike? Are your heads CNC ported?




4.125 bore with a 3.79 stroke
EDIT
Yes they were CNC'd then I touched them up after that

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Re: How much steam from W9's naturally aspirated? [Re: dustyhof] #316404
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some recently dyno'd a W9 combo at a bit less than 1000 HP:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=6&fpart=1

From what I understand the W9 is a lighter update on the W8 and likely with the Raised Port version could have more potential.

I imagine the bucks and the details behind that type of motor is pretty high.

Greg

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some recently dyno'd a W9 combo at a bit less than 1000 HP:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=6&fpart=1

From what I understand the W9 is a lighter update on the W8 and likely with the Raised Port version could have more potential.

I imagine the bucks and the details behind that type of motor is pretty high.

Greg




Thats a W-8. Yes the W-9 is a light version of a
W-7 and W-8 combined with some differences... the
W-8 makes more power.

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We put together a W-8 15* NASCAR take off...

4.185 x 3.79, 13.8 comp, 420 cast intake, 4150 carb, about.760 lift @ the valve. Very mild stuff.

No lightweight parts...the engine is built for oxide. Made 861 @ 8100 and 635 @ 6400 on a very accurate inertia dyno.

A W-8 is not "exotic".

A max N/A single 4 cast intake W-8 will make 1000+.

I have yet to see a W-9 make that kind of steam and probably never will.

What I find hard to believe is not one company is casting a new W-8!!!

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I seen a 435 inch W9RP make 825..but it was a nitrous motor..but had some very good parts in it..I seen the heads and they were really nice.. to pretty to put on a motor..LOL

I was told that a max effort W9 could make 900hp..


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I seen a 435 inch W9RP make 825..but it was a nitrous motor..but had some very good parts in it..I seen the heads and they were really nice.. to pretty to put on a motor..LOL

I was told that a max effort W9 could make 900hp..


900 ain't chop liver, but a 9 has nothing for an 8.

As you well know.

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We put together a W-8 15* NASCAR take off...

4.185 x 3.79, 13.8 comp, 420 cast intake, 4150 carb, about.760 lift @ the valve. Very mild stuff.

No lightweight parts...the engine is built for oxide. Made 861 @ 8100 and 635 @ 6400 on a very accurate inertia dyno.

A W-8 is not "exotic".

A max N/A single 4 cast intake W-8 will make 1000+.

I have yet to see a W-9 make that kind of steam and probably never will.

What I find hard to believe is not one company is casting a new W-8!!!




Jim..Looks like you have a happy dyno there 861..with that kind of compression,carb,and cam..boy that is hard to believe..

My old 16 degree W-8 would make 880hp on BES's dyno..with dominator,16.1,and 950 lift cam..and old technology..so I think your probably around the 800 to 820 range..


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We put together a W-8 15* NASCAR take off...

4.185 x 3.79, 13.8 comp, 420 cast intake, 4150 carb, about.760 lift @ the valve. Very mild stuff.

No lightweight parts...the engine is built for oxide. Made 861 @ 8100 and 635 @ 6400 on a very accurate inertia dyno.

A W-8 is not "exotic".

A max N/A single 4 cast intake W-8 will make 1000+.

I have yet to see a W-9 make that kind of steam and probably never will.

What I find hard to believe is not one company is casting a new W-8!!!




Jim..Looks like you have a happy dyno there 861..with that kind of compression,carb,and cam..boy that is hard to believe..

My old 16 degree W-8 would make 880hp on BES's dyno..with dominator,16.1,and 950 lift cam..and old technology..so I think your probably around the 800 to 820 range..


I hope not.

This dyno seems to be real close to a number of cars that have made laps, including Emilio's blue Duster that won Pinks All Out. We've talked to a half dozen guys that run #s right on this dyno.

We have a good 15* head. It flowed just over 400cfm @.800 with good mid #s and speed, on MBEs bench, a done up 420 intake and a big 4150.

Time will tell. The Dart its going in will be finished and at ATCO in the fall. Its a big tire backhalf, with a good 3sp that we will gear and converter for N/A before we spray it next year.

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Jim,
There is nothing wrong with a 15 degree head..Tell you the truth..if I was to do a new head it would be a 13 degree..The 15 and up motors like rpm..when we changed to the 10 degree..the rpm came down..which is easier on the motor.but this is also with over 400 inches..but the 9400 rpm thru the traps is fun. A 360 cube with a 10 degree is another story..

What kind of rpm did the motor like on the dyno?..my 16 degree would go around 8900 before it would fall off?

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