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4-Speed Part ID #3145467
05/19/23 12:27 AM
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I got these parts with a used A833 transmission. Please help me ID them. The Z-bar looks like it was cut down. Will any of these parts fit a 472 hemi/A833 in a 69 Charger with a Lakewood or a Quicktime bell housing? The crossmember looks like an early B-body. Can I use my automatic 69 B body crossmember with a 70 b body dual pad A-833 without mods? I'm not sure what the clutch rods and fork are off of. The fork looks a bit short.

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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Blue69Charger] #3145468
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More photos.

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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Blue69Charger] #3145475
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Put them in and find out if they will work work
AKA, that clutch fork looks like it is for a A motor, their longer than the B,RB and gen 2 Hemi clutch forks. I would toss the crossmember and replace it with a good one, I may be wrong as it has been over thirty years since I have work on a unmolested B and E body stock 4 speed car that hasn't been molested by someone who didn't know when to let stuff stay stock shruggy
The rod that fits between the Z bar and the clutch pedal may not be correct for your car either, maybe it is confused. Try the parts you got now and go from their wrench scope up twocents
good luck, let us know what you find out and do to get it working well up

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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Cab_Burge] #3145505
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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Blue69Charger] #3145530
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The crossmember is off an earlier car , pre 66 I believe , wit hthe dual bolt trans mount. Your 69 Auto crossmember is what you want to use with the 70 up dual tail mount. The mount location was changed for 1970 so they only had to make one crossmember, instead of 2, and since the tailhousing was being recast for use in e bodies also it made sense to change it instead of the 727 .


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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: JohnRR] #3145662
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Thanks guys! Good to know my existing cross member will work. It looks like most of my clutch linkage is for an early b body so I'm thinking about going hydraulic with a Malwood pedal for a quick and easy installation. https://www.malwoodusa.com/uncatego...inder-clutch-pedal-kit-billet-reservoir/ There isn't much room to weld on a z-bar (I don't want to take the hemi out) and it sounds like mechanical linkage would take a bit of customization.

Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Blue69Charger] #3145689
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The proper mechanical clutch linkage bolts in, no welding required tsk scope
All the later A,B and E body Mopar's, 1965 to 1974 or so come with the tab welded on the front driver side sub frame near the firewall for the Z bar bolt and stud to fit into scope up
Have you driven a car with one of those hydraulic clutch set up your thinking about buying and using? If not you should twocents scope wrench up


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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Cab_Burge] #3145765
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As mentioned, just go to brewer’s website and look. then order what you don’t have. Nice honest people. Can’t be beat.

Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: fastmark] #3145917
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Originally Posted by fastmark
As mentioned, just go to brewer’s website and look. then order what you don’t have. Nice honest people. Can’t be beat.


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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: TJP] #3145958
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I had to cut the z-bar and move one arm over to fit it in my 69RR with a Lakewood bell. Since the Charger front frame is identical you will also need to do that.


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Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Stanton] #3146016
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I don't see a bracket welded to the driver's frame rail near the firewall. I see a notch for alignment. I think there might be enough room to weld it in if I remove the brake booster, but it will be tight.

Thanks for the great photos and measurements Stanton.

Re: 4-Speed Part ID [Re: Blue69Charger] #3146163
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In a quick answer, no.
Clutch fork fits 62-5 B and some C body/A100 applications.
Z-bar looks to be 76-80 F body with V8
X member is 62-5 B with 4-speed or T85 3-speed.


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