Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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Well after about a year and a half of work, my '62 is finally converted over from the old small block turbo combo and ready to run.
I have had so much help from so many people, but more than anyone my Dad (dvw) has just put in HUNDREDS of hours into this car. No doubt I would have eventually gotten it done, but no where near the quality and craftsmanship level he brought to the project. Not to mention the hours my Mom put in helping on the interior, giving up time with my Dad, and keeping us alive!
HardcoreB built a hell of a motor for the combo too, and went above and beyond the original commissioned engine build he took on.
So here is the combo, and the obligatory moparts question for any new build.... what will it run?
3570lbs with driver ready for the starting line (heavier than I was hoping!) 4.10 Dana with Caltracs, 29.5 x 10.5 Pro Bracket Radials, and Mencer Double Adjustable Afco's 727 with good strong parts and Aluminum Drum. TA 8" converter spec'd for the combo (target 6200 stall)
486" Low Deck (4.385" bore x 4" stroke) Indy SR Heads, w/ 2.25" ti valves (flow 360cfm?) 275@.050 / .762" Lift Roller Cam, T&D 1.6 rockers, with PAC Springs Crower Ultra light crank, BME Aluminum Rods, with flat top pistons (12.2:1 compression) Hooker 2-1/8" headers with 3.5" collector Mod Man intake (which we named the SeanMan after the heavy runner length/porting/design changes of HardcoreB's work.) Two 750 AFB's Electric water pump & Vacuum pump pulling 10~12"
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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Really happy with the interior.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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By the way the engine sounds, it will run 9.90's, but I think the 4.10's might slow it down some, and need a 4.56 rear gear. Just My opinion. I think 10.25's are reasonable.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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No really good at these guessing games but I’m sure it will run great. Nice job guys. Now go have fun.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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05/04/23 10:11 AM
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Thinking 9.80's at Lapeer or Martin, and 10.20's at Milan if you go on a night when they aren't radial prepping. The car looks outstanding, love the interior and patina!
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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Awesome job! I'm gonna say 9.70s-9.80s.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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No idea what it will run but certainly looks awesome. Nicely done.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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I'm going to guess 9.70's @ around 136 for the first outing, then you guys will continue to drop from there.... probably a 9.50 or better in it before the year is over.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
[Re: dizuster]
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05/04/23 02:18 PM
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you guys do great stuff, you looking to adopt a brother or a son???
I cant wait to hear how it runs.
Thank you Kiddart
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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I've thought about building a 4.0 stroke B/RB stroker motor but haven't built one yet , maybe next year I've built more than one 3.91 stroke B and Rb motors and 4.150, 4.250, 4.320 and several 4.375 strokers with stock Mopar rod jourmnal sizes, never again using the 2.375 rod journal diameter by choice What made you decide to use that stroke? I'm thinking that combination will like RPM i Cab, years ago i built a 475 cube rb motor out of a stock crank cut to 2.10 sbc size at 4.0 inch, using a BME 396 aluminum custom rod. It worked great for what it was. The rod was 7.10 long, which fit some stroker pistons i had from a motor that broke a crank. The 2.10 bearings held up well, and the second owner got a lot of life out of it
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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I've thought about building a 4.0 stroke B/RB stroker motor but haven't built one yet , maybe next year I've built more than one 3.91 stroke B and Rb motors and 4.150, 4.250, 4.320 and several 4.375 strokers with stock Mopar rod jourmnal sizes, never again using the 2.375 rod journal diameter by choice What made you decide to use that stroke? I'm thinking that combination will like RPM i Cab, years ago i built a 475 cube rb motor out of a stock crank cut to 2.10 sbc size at 4.0 inch, using a BME 396 aluminum custom rod. It worked great for what it was. The rod was 7.10 long, which fit some stroker pistons i had from a motor that broke a crank. The 2.10 bearings held up well, and the second owner got a lot of life out of it Thanks
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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That's another one of the cool cars on here. I bet its going to run 9.80's.......but I think it's going to want 4.56's back there.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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excellent work I'm thinking to much stall ,you might be missing the bottom end torque off the line just my .$02 I would say 5200 -5400 i would think. however its a very cool body style and build . Chop down the tree!!!
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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Unfortunately only got one semi good run in. Something is broke in the trans or converter. Pretty happy with the 1.33 60ft, and 6.23 in the 1/8th at only 106mph is promising for sure. Will get it back home and torn apart. Very good leave. Wheelie bar just keeps the front tires dancing. https://youtu.be/ELOceXIaYY0
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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Awesome results for a shakedown pass!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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I got a lot of help from a lot of people. In addition to DVW a d HardcoreB...
My mom did the lexan window straps and helped with the headliner. A friend Virginia did the carpet, Steve bent the roll cage, Kyle welded the bars, Dave built the intake spacer and welded up the valve cover, Jerry painted the motor, scoop, and wheels....and most of all my wife tolerated all of it in the middle of working and going to school to get her masters degree at the same time.
Lots of chaos, lots of help. All makes for a good life!
We will get the trans fixed up and will be back out.
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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Awesome first pass. It'll be running solid mid 9's by the summer!
I also haven't been to Stanton in forever, nice to see it's got concrete barriers now instead of armco.
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FWD: Somethings up with the trans, because it ran the last 300ft on the Rev limiter at 7500 rpm. But it's pretty quick already in the front half. My hat is off to all who contributed to this build. IMHO IT will eventually show itself to be a REAL overachiever, based on what is in this whole package. The 60 ft says it has power to run sub 9.80? 6.23 equals 9.80?
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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you guys are absolutely killing it. that car is already moving out!!
all involved should pat yourself on the back.
Thank you Kiddart
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Re: Finally DONE! What will it run?!?!?
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what really impresses me is the performance gotten out of the modman/Sr heads combo. And the story has a few more chapters! Sean, Doug, and anyone else helping with this project, hats off to you!
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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