Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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Does it have a fender tag? Looks like a pretty cool car non the less, especially the 500 part. 426W isn't on the option list
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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He has enough proof now to show that it was ordered that way through Mr. Norms but why?! Why would anyone order a 426 street wedge when the 440 was available?
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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in 1966, only the standard 440 was available and only in C-Bodies as the new, large luxury V8. The first Hi-Po 440 came in the R/T and GTX in 67, that's probably why...
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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My take one this? Norm probably wanted 440s in a Coronet, but they were all shipping to the C body plants, so end of life 426Ws were offered. Keep a hemi or two in the showroom, then steer buyers to the more affordable wedge version. It's a really old sales tactic. That makes a lot of sense.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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I'd have to see the broadcast sheet to believe this. Especially with the 383 badging on the fenders. And BTW, I'm with Cab, as the former owner of a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 Street Wedge, that thing couldn't get out of its own way.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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I'd have to see the broadcast sheet to believe this. He has shown the broadcast sheet on Facebook. Clearly has "426 Wedge" at the bottom.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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I'd have to see the broadcast sheet to believe this. Especially with the 383 badging on the fenders. And BTW, I'm with Cab, as the former owner of a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 Street Wedge, that thing couldn't get out of its own way. The build sheet has been commented on, the emblems on the fenders are kinda explained in the video. The car was wrecked in the front at some point and the front clip (fenders) were changed.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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I'd have to see the broadcast sheet to believe this. Especially with the 383 badging on the fenders. And BTW, I'm with Cab, as the former owner of a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 Street Wedge, that thing couldn't get out of its own way. The build sheet has been commented on, the emblems on the fenders are kinda explained in the video. The car was wrecked in the front at some point and the front clip (fenders) were changed. That's interesting. If I read the build sheet correctly the VIN is WH23G67165814. Wonder what that decodes as?
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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Build sheet is coded for a 383 as well as the fender tag. The fender tags on '69 A12 Road Runners and Super Bees are coded for 383's as the A12 was a "package" or option that was added to a base 383 RR/SB. Also there were a few, very early first run '69 A12 Road Runners that still had an "H" in the 5th position of the VIN (dash plate) instead of the "M" for special engine (i.e., 440) as on the later production A12's.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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Build sheet is coded for a 383 as well as the fender tag. The fender tags on '69 A12 Road Runners and Super Bees are coded for 383's as the A12 was a "package" or option that was added to a base 383 RR/SB. Also there were a few, very early first run '69 A12 Road Runners that still had an "H" in the 5th position of the VIN (dash plate) instead of the "M" for special engine (i.e., 440) as on the later production A12's. What did those cars build sheets say.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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Also as I recall the VIN on the build sheet is for a G code 383 not an H. So the build sheet VIN does not match the door jam VIN tag. I recall this from a previous conversation. The guy with this car did get the IBM card and I do not think that confirmed it had the 426 wedge. All he has is a car that went to mister Norms, a VIN tag and a build sheet that only says 426 wedge at the bottom.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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I'd have to see the broadcast sheet to believe this. Especially with the 383 badging on the fenders. And BTW, I'm with Cab, as the former owner of a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 Street Wedge, that thing couldn't get out of its own way. I've seen the broadcast sheet, says 426 WEDGE on the bottom typed in the comments, I think I got it right. The 68 GSS Darts Norm had built had 383 FOUR BARREL emblems on the fenders...
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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I know of one 66 CSS half ton pickup that has 426 HEMI badges on it but no engine when it was found. Everything on the CERT tag says SPCL...
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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What would that 426 Wedge have had for an intake manifold and carburetion and exhaust manifolds? Would it have looked like this?
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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That photo is the max wedge So it should be termed 426 "STREET" wedge and not just 426 wedge? Like these:
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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( VIN is WH23G67165814. Wonder what that decodes as?)
WH is a Coronet 440
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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1964, 426S = 426 street wedge, dual log exhaust manifolds, 2206000 intake manifold, turqouize engine paint, chrome air cleaner and chrome valve covers block casting number 2406730, 2406516 cyl heads, Single AFB Carter carb.365HP 1965 426 street wedge blocks were casting number 2532230 By chance was there a specific radiator for the 426 street wedge versus the 383 or 440 ? Be interesting to know if the car in question still has the original radiator and what the part number is. That would be a telltale. Are there any other telltales when a 426 street wedge is selected? Hey Dan ?
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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Under remarks there is a number 020673, then 426 Wedge. What do those numbers mean? Anything of significance? The date 426 Wedge was added to the broadcast sheet?
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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People implying that this has been concocted.
Usually the main reason VIN's and fender tags are changed for financial gain.
Don't mistake rare for desirable. It's not like a 426 street wedge is something that is sought after.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Coronet VIN oddity
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Yes I know some people question Galen which is why I didn’t stop researching even after what he’s said like I said I have dealership ads and as well have spoke with the original owner and confirmed it with employees who worked for Mr Norm himself I leave people free to believe or don’t believe the car is what it is. I have all the evidence even StreetKing realized what the car was after he sold it. (Gonna try to see if I can get photos uploaded so bear with me) https://imgur.com/a/CyJgg6D
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