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Re: Strange rivets [Re: JohnRR] #3125963
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Well, let’s see if I can post a photo of the vin tag and wait for reactions.


This looks like a 68 fender tag. I thought your car was a 69?


it is a 68 Fendertag and the car is a 69 , very odd , first time I have seen something like this , but I'll admit I haven't seen a lot .


Most likely because of the Scheduled Production Date of July 28, 1968 that they used a '68 fender tag blank for the Body In White information?

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Originally Posted by robertop
This is in answer to member rbmopar who asked how I ended up with my car:apparently in a private reply you cannot post photos for some reason, so here I can do that. Here is a photo of my rr just after I bought it. Obviously I cannot say if the black stripes were a factory job or were added by the dealership.Interestingly, the hood vents are black, not red. I have a small rr book where the author claims that the first black stripes had black vents in 69, so that is that.


Does the car have the "Air Grabber" fresh air option? Being a HEMI it would have had the Air Grabber as standard equipment and should have had the red grille hood scoop vents. Maybe that decision hadn't been made yet?

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Tag was mentioned here a few years back. Tag

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I see it has the small fender top turn signal indicators and not the bullet or torpedo style.

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The owner stated on another post the post with the funky looking dash VIN tag rivets that he bought the car February of 70. So the car was able to be played with for a year and a half before he bought it.

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That’s exactly what I said!

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It's a pretty cool car regardless. Surely a good candidate to keep it as it is if possible.
I would leave the vin rivets as they are and if possible not repaint anything else.

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Yes the Air Grabber is there, but it’s slightly d different, of course,

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Was the passenger side fender (or more) recently repainted when the early pic taken?
I think it would be interesting to check a lot of date codes of parts on the car.

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I learned that the car was used as a demo car at the dealership in Georgia. It apparently was drag raced by the salesmen at a local dragway. When I got it domes body parts had been repaired or replaced for sure, but now who knows for sure. Back in the summer of 1970 I was driving on a bad road, had to make a fast stop and the rr veered and hit a pole. The repairs cost me $500 plus and I still have the receipt so one could find what was replaced at that time. For the record.

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Originally Posted by robertop
Yes the Air Grabber is there, but it’s slightly d different, of course,


This '69 Hemi Super Bee with a SPD of January 2, 1969 had an orange Air Grabber and so did a promo sales feature '69 Road Runner convertible and a '69 GTX in the same sales feature slide show promo. (and BTW orange hood scoop intake grilles, and an orange (painted??) AG to air filter lid/tray rubber seal on the RR?)


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There’s really no telling what one might find on that car if some time was spent. Better to just drive it and enjoy it at this point.


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I like to hear and see the history of these lower production high performance cars. I know many were not treated kindly when new(er) as buyers had them for a good reason.
Little details found during restoration often hint and a cars history, yet documents, parts, #'s and verbal history are irreplaceable.
I respect seeing oem restos, though not as much as those lesser fussed over.
Example: those strange rivets.
Kudos to Robertop for posting this.

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Originally Posted by srt
I like to hear and see the history of these lower production high performance cars. I know many were not treated kindly when new(er) as buyers had them for a good reason.
Little details found during restoration often hint and a cars history, yet documents, parts, #'s and verbal history are irreplaceable.
I respect seeing oem restos, though not as much as those lesser fussed over.
Example: those strange rivets.
Kudos to Robertop for posting this.


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Originally Posted by srt
I like to hear and see the history of these lower production high performance cars. I know many were not treated kindly when new(er) as buyers had them for a good reason.
Little details found during restoration often hint and a cars history, yet documents, parts, #'s and verbal history are irreplaceable.
I respect seeing oem restos, though not as much as those lesser fussed over.
Example: those strange rivets.
Kudos to Robertop for posting this.


For starters are the rivets. One would think if this was a norm you would have documentation supporting this. Same with the fender tag. Cool car none the less.

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The documentation on my car is being done in another venue, so everybody has to wait for now. For the record- my record-I have more oddities about my car, coming. For those who believe I am a liar and a frond, you will find out that at least I am a very thorough one!q

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So what do the back of those rivets actually look like? Even without the special VIN rivets you'd think that if it wasn't installed with the car running down a normal assembly line they'd have at least used normal pop rivets unless the VIN was going on at a time that they couldn't easily get a riveter in there and the furniture tack looking ones was the best way someone came up with to install it.

It's an interesting car none the less and at least when you've owned it as long as you have it makes things easier to at least track how long things have been a certain way rather then someone buying it now and not knowing what's happened in the last 64 years with it.

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Originally Posted by 5thAve
It's an interesting car none the less and at least when you've owned it as long as you have it makes things easier to at least track how long things have been a certain way rather then someone buying it now and not knowing what's happened in the last 64 years with it.


Agree but that would be the last fifty-four (54) years...........had to count on my fingers to make sure I didn't age another ten years since I bought my first car in '69, a '69 Road Runner too. laugh2

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