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Re: Strange rivets
[Re: topside]
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03/06/23 12:06 AM
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Well, here's a stock, 17,000-mile unrestored '69 RR's trunk lid. SPD 2/12/69, St Louis.
'68-'69, there were 2 versions of the underside: a panel with cut-outs, and the full panel.
OP's car has base interior but Decor Group B-pillar caps. Those caps were available separately, but that's extremely rare.
I've seen the cracking mentioned on 1 or 2 HT B-pillars, but not on Coupes.
What I've seen of the subject car so far indicates a past incorrect restoration, and likely some major repairs early in its life.
I'm not buying special bodywork by the factory; I don't recall seeing a similar car in any of the early road tests or the traveling caravan Plymouth had. It's good to keep info exchange. THe quarter skin will crack where it transitions into the jamb. It would be interesting to see if the torque on a post car would result in cracking there. If the incorrect resto prevails I'd say this car has lead a pretty pampered if not mostly stationary life. Again info exchange to find out more.
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Re: Strange rivets
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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03/06/23 01:22 AM
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What option got you the b pillar caps without the A87? Yes the A87 option would get you the bright B-pillar molding BUT it would also get you the "Decor" interior with rear arm rests with ashtrays, etc and the high-grade seat covers which it appears not to have. The M07 stand alone molding option would get you just the bright B-pillar molding. Mike
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Re: Strange rivets
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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03/06/23 01:56 AM
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Not sure, yet it is shown as an (E) extra cost option on pg 26 of the Dealership Data Book Here <- Click On page 30 it indicated (by lack of an *) it was available outside of the complete ""Decor Package" along with "rear Armrests with Ash Receiver". I no expert of the nuances of ordering, yet believe the above. I see 33 mo. back you looked at a green rr with the same trim/ and w/o decor. Hope the above helps. fwiw I'm not certain and would have to look through a bunch of old pics: there was green rr that came out to some gatherings in the sf bay area in the late 80's driven by the son of original owner (had passed away) it must have been parked in a narrow garage as there were scrapes and dents the entire length of both sides. I believe the car had the bright b pillar covers (and can't honestly recall if it had the decor pkg. I was typing when you two exchanged info. In the linked pages it's interesting about the front seats. Decor pkg available only on post car, and buckets or vinyl bench (available in pkg only - noted on pg 30).
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Re: Strange rivets
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03/06/23 02:47 AM
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There's a few things that I would like to know about like the "double stripe" S- standard on a Sport Satellite that I have never seen??? The double stripe is not available on any other model but standard on the Sport Satellite? Or is this for '68 models which after looking at it again appears to be as it list a S- standard reflective stripe for the GTX which there was but the reflective stripe on my '69 GTX was E-extra? This must be for '68 B-body models.
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Re: Strange rivets
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03/06/23 06:53 AM
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Not sure, yet it is shown as an (E) extra cost option on pg 26 of the Dealership Data Book Here <- Click On page 30 it indicated (by lack of an *) it was available outside of the complete ""Decor Package" along with "rear Armrests with Ash Receiver". I no expert of the nuances of ordering, yet believe the above. I see 33 mo. back you looked at a green rr with the same trim/ and w/o decor. Hope the above helps. fwiw I'm not certain and would have to look through a bunch of old pics: there was green rr that came out to some gatherings in the sf bay area in the late 80's driven by the son of original owner (had passed away) it must have been parked in a narrow garage as there were scrapes and dents the entire length of both sides. I believe the car had the bright b pillar covers (and can't honestly recall if it had the decor pkg. I was typing when you two exchanged info. In the linked pages it's interesting about the front seats. Decor pkg available only on post car, and buckets or vinyl bench (available in pkg only - noted on pg 30). I remember that car. It had the decor seats and no b pillar trim. Tag didn’t match the resto and was a lynch rd car so limited intell on it to begin with.
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Re: Strange rivets
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03/06/23 10:39 AM
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The car came with the lighting package, chrome b pillar covers, chrome door top edges, Super Track Pak, power steering, 3-speed windshield wipers, and Deluxe 3-spoke steering wheel.a
. It had to have a 3-speed wiper because with the standard with a Hemi "Air Grabber" big oval air cleaner cover the 2-speed wiper motor was too close to it, in fact I think it even hits it. I also thought because of the weight of the Hemi engine power steering was standard too? Also I thought it was either an optional wood grain three spoke steering wheel or the standard Deluxe 3-spoke for '69 and no base 3-spoke like the taxi cab base '68 RR steering wheel? The A01 light package had the delayed ignition key light, map light, trunk light, glove box light and console courtesy lights if equipped with a C16. Chrome door top edges? Do you mean "Belt Molding"?? (M31) like my Y4 A122 above?................and why another new thread for a ground cable  
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Re: Strange rivets
[Re: A12]
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03/06/23 11:53 AM
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There's a few things that I would like to know about like the "double stripe" S- standard on a Sport Satellite that I have never seen??? The double stripe is not available on any other model but standard on the Sport Satellite? Or is this for '68 models which after looking at it again appears to be as it list a S- standard reflective stripe for the GTX which there was but the reflective stripe on my '69 GTX was E-extra? This must be for '68 B-body models. yes, my bad. I had checked the 68 and 69 for b pillar molding and copied wrong tab for link. Here is correct <- Click. Fortunately the b pillar molding was avail both years as (E). I wonder about early production cars using prior year parts, this the reason (I had a couple tabs open) hoping whoever looks the car over inspects those items.
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Re: Strange rivets
[Re: srt]
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03/06/23 12:02 PM
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PS optional regardless of engine - I've had 2 Hemi RRs with manual steering.
Sport Satellite striping was unique to that trim level, was lower on the body - visible in '69 brochure.
Decor Group on RRs brought interior up to the Satellite trim that was included on HTs, BUT:
Around 1985-6 I looked at an apparently original '69 RR HT that had the base interior, low-option car.
It was a red car, black interior, 4-speed, low-option, in Burbank CA.
To date - and from when they were introduced - it's the only such anomaly I've ever seen.
That said, a buddy back then bought an original '68 Super Bee from its original owner, who'd had the dealer swap its black seats & door cards for white.
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Re: Strange rivets
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03/06/23 12:10 PM
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why another new thread for a ground cable It's the 3rd new thread that's been started about this topic. I've merged the latter 2 into the original.
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Re: Strange rivets
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03/06/23 02:23 PM
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
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Thanks for the moderator to combine my posts. I did not know how to do that, so good move! You can't do it. Just keep posting in this topic instead of starting new ones.
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