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Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans #3119442
02/06/23 10:33 PM
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I'm making a return to the track this year in a car I didn't build and haven't raced this car before. Working on putting the motor together now and have 2 oil pans I'm working with, a 6 quart hemi pan and a 7 quart 2" deep pan from 440 source. Not sure if the car is going to pull the tires much or not. It weigh's in at 1,800# with no motor or trans. 500" RB. I know there's lots of other factors, just trying to decide on a pan. Want to run the deep pan, but worried I'll hit it. The 6 quart pan has a large radius at the bottom making the external pick up not wanting to sit where it needs to (to far from bottom of pan). I do have wheelie bars, QA1 shocks on all 4 corners. I see plenty of pictures of cars running them it seems. Am I thinking to much? Or just ease into it and firgure car out as I go? How many of you racers are running a pan 2" below the K-member? Just trying to figure out a direction so I can wrap up this motor build. I did search before asking, only found 1 thread.

Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: Mopar.70] #3119445
02/06/23 10:48 PM
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If my pan was JUST 2" lower than my K member, I wouldn't know how to act. Have to be real carefull at some tracks. I actually dragged my pan going into my shop one time. Fixed that. I also can't run short front tires either.

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Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: '72CudaRacer] #3119450
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I bought one of those 7qt hemi pans, a quick bit of surgery & I now have an external pick up. I had a deep pan before, but it took too many hits. This works great.

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Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: rebel] #3119483
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I went to a dry sump. My pan was 3” off the ground

Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: Thelma133] #3119508
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72CudaRacer, I've got the same body, guessing for about the same ET as well. How far below the K member is your pan if you don't mind me asking and what front shocks are you running? Thanks!

Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: Mopar.70] #3119714
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Originally Posted by Mopar.70
72CudaRacer, I've got the same body, guessing for about the same ET as well. How far below the K member is your pan if you don't mind me asking and what front shocks are you running? Thanks!



The engine is out of the car on a stand, but by my calculations, the sump is roughly 6"-6 1/2" lower than the bottom of the K member. Front shocks are (gasp!) cal-trac's 90/10. (obviously, they don't work)

Brian

Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: '72CudaRacer] #3119755
02/07/23 09:10 PM
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Thanks for the info, I'm going to go with the 2" deep pan, measuring back and forth between my cuda and challenger should come out with around 4" of ground clearance I'm thinking. Just have to work with it I guess.

Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: Mopar.70] #3119768
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I started using the stock type Mopar 6 quart street hemi and 440 Six Pack oil pan with the stock 3/8 440 oil pickup in a lot of my street and strip builds years ago with great results up
My pump gas Duster motor was a 400 block stroker motor that was 517 C.I. with that pan and pickup and ran a bunch of 10.00 at 134.+ MPH through the complete 3.0 inch exhaust system to the rear bumper and air cleaner on boogie
The only problem I had was if I let the oil level get down one full quart while drag racing it at a 1/4 mile track, the oil pressure would start to drop off after I let off the throttle completely about 200 to 300 ft. past the 1/4 mile finish line shock It wouldn't drop to zero, maybe down to 30 to 40 lbs. and then come back up within 3 to 5 seconds, faster if I tapped the throttle a little bit, it would do that only if was 1 quart or more low shruggy
I would make sure it was at the full mark before racing it at the 1/4 mile tracks, those are GREAT oil pans up twocents

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Re: Drag Car and Deep Sump Pans [Re: Mopar.70] #3119867
02/08/23 09:32 AM
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Use the deep pan.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
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'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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