GM isn't done with V8s just yet.......
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" GM announced on Friday that it would be spending $854 million to make its sixth-generation small block V8, and $64 million to help its EV efforts, in news that sounds like it belongs in a different year but isn’t. The news also confirms that a sixth-generation small block V8 is happening, which GM says it intends to use to “strengthen its industry-leading full-size truck and SUV business.”
The fifth-generation V8 is currently used in a variety of cars, trucks, and SUVs in a variety of configurations, from the base C8 Corvettes to some versions of the Sierra. News that there will be a sixth-gen comes as only a small surprise, as GM expects to still be selling a lot of gas trucks and SUVs for years to come, likely in part because towing range in electric vehicles still sucks." https://jalopnik.com/gm-is-investing-almost-1-billion-in-new-v8-engines-1850013640
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What is the future of the Ram trucks? Has anyone heard?
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Re: GM isn't done with V8s just yet.......
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Sounds like GM is playing it smart. The push to electric at the pace it's going isn't because of normal market forces. It's going to hit a wall sooner or later and autos that went in too hard on electric are going to be in a real lurch.
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Sounds like GM is playing it smart. The push to electric at the pace it's going isn't because of normal market forces. It's going to hit a wall sooner or later and autos that went in too hard on electric are going to be in a real lurch. Totally agree, I don't mind going electric but they all are just pushing too hard.
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Don't think Chrysler's Hurricane engines are going to be as successful as the whole 3rd Gen Hemi era has been. Even though they will get better mileage and make more power except for Hellcats.
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Re: GM isn't done with V8s just yet.......
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What is the future of the Ram trucks? Has anyone heard? Buy a good extension cord.
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What is the future of the Ram trucks? Has anyone heard? Buy a good extension cord. Or tow a diesel generator to recharge the truck.
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Re: GM isn't done with V8s just yet.......
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"[i]GM announced on Friday that it would be spending $854 million to make its sixth-generation small block V8, and $64 million to help its EV efforts, in news that sounds like it belongs in a different year but isn’t. The news also confirms that a sixth-generation small block V8 is happening, which GM says it intends to use to “strengthen its industry-leading full-size truck and SUV business.” I personally do not think it would be crazy to design and build a big cube spark ignition V8 that could run on gasoline, propane, cng, or butanol, and push it for 18 wheel trucks. Maybe pay Mazda to co-develop it. Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel with DEF fluid and particulate filters is no longer the low cost per 500,000 mile option.
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I was asking about the drive system rather than the cosmetics.
Judging by the little door on the fender, they are planning on electric trucks. I just hope that is not all they are developing. Many do not think that battery trucks are anywhere near ready for prime time. I don't either.
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Many do not think that battery trucks are anywhere near ready for prime time. I don't either. I don't think we are ready for all electric anything at the current time (no pun intended) Possibly for commuting in congested cities but they still have to be recharged and I'm also not sure our electrical grid is ready for that demand. no tryin to go political here but this BIG push seemed to jump ahead after the last election and I wonder WHO is doing the pushing? Would not surprise me on bit if Musk is deeply involved. The other question is why the oil companies are being so quiet As my old German boss would say "I thenk I smells in de air" LOL BTW that was a really bad thing if you happened to be the one stinking up the room "vithout data" to back it up. that person would be gone the following Friday He was a great man to work for
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As it has always been in the auto industry, someone has to have big enough balls to stand up to the "current" trend. As soon as one displays the courage to stand up for what appears to be right, soon others join them. It appears this time Gm is the one with the big balls. It will be interesting to see how many join them by the new car production time. The real hand writing will be on the wall 2 months into the new production year. Those that are unable to adjust in which ever direction the correct answer lays may be in for a really bad year.
As it stands right now, I'd be betting against the current direction things appear to be going. It sounds to me like most of you agree with me. I think BMW may have been first, they said a month or so ago that they will not be building cars according to politics. Lets face it, thing could be completely flipped in very short order and none of these companies are going to bankrupt themselves chasing hopes and dreams of politicians that have no idea whats involved.
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It will be interesting to watch VW.
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As it has always been in the auto industry, someone has to have big enough balls to stand up to the "current" trend. As soon as one displays the courage to stand up for what appears to be right, soon others join them. It appears this time Gm is the one with the big balls. It will be interesting to see how many join them by the new car production time. The real hand writing will be on the wall 2 months into the new production year. Those that are unable to adjust in which ever direction the correct answer lays may be in for a really bad year.
As it stands right now, I'd be betting against the current direction things appear to be going. It sounds to me like most of you agree with me. I think BMW may have been first, they said a month or so ago that they will not be building cars according to politics. Lets face it, thing could be completely flipped in very short order and none of these companies are going to bankrupt themselves chasing hopes and dreams of politicians that have no idea whats involved. BMW is not the first. Or even GM. Toyota has been saying for years that EVs are not the end all, be all. www.thedrive.com/news/41127/toyota-still-wont-go-all-in-on-electric-cars
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As it has always been in the auto industry, someone has to have big enough balls to stand up to the "current" trend. As soon as one displays the courage to stand up for what appears to be right, soon others join them. It appears this time Gm is the one with the big balls. It will be interesting to see how many join them by the new car production time. The real hand writing will be on the wall 2 months into the new production year. Those that are unable to adjust in which ever direction the correct answer lays may be in for a really bad year.
As it stands right now, I'd be betting against the current direction things appear to be going. It sounds to me like most of you agree with me. I think BMW may have been first, they said a month or so ago that they will not be building cars according to politics. Lets face it, thing could be completely flipped in very short order and none of these companies are going to bankrupt themselves chasing hopes and dreams of politicians that have no idea whats involved. BMW is not the first. Or even GM. Toyota has been saying for years that EVs are not the end all, be all. www.thedrive.com/news/41127/toyota-still-wont-go-all-in-on-electric-cars Anyone with a brain knows EV cars right now are NOT the answer
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As it has always been in the auto industry, someone has to have big enough balls to stand up to the "current" trend. As soon as one displays the courage to stand up for what appears to be right, soon others join them. It appears this time Gm is the one with the big balls. It will be interesting to see how many join them by the new car production time. The real hand writing will be on the wall 2 months into the new production year. Those that are unable to adjust in which ever direction the correct answer lays may be in for a really bad year.
As it stands right now, I'd be betting against the current direction things appear to be going. It sounds to me like most of you agree with me. I think BMW may have been first, they said a month or so ago that they will not be building cars according to politics. Lets face it, thing could be completely flipped in very short order and none of these companies are going to bankrupt themselves chasing hopes and dreams of politicians that have no idea whats involved. BMW is not the first. Or even GM. Toyota has been saying for years that EVs are not the end all, be all. www.thedrive.com/news/41127/toyota-still-wont-go-all-in-on-electric-cars Many have said EV's aren't the answer, BMW said they weren't going to build cars according to politics - quite different. Stellantis CEO even said EV's suck, and look at the new charger and Ram
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Many have said EV's aren't the answer, BMW said they weren't going to build cars according to politics - quite different. Stellantis CEO even said EV's suck, and look at the new charger and Ram
It's a difference without a distinction. The whole EV only thing is strictly political. It makes no sense. The ONLY reason a company would go strictly EV is because of politics. So, whether a company's statement cites politics directly, or whether it doesn't, is not the point. The very discussion is more about politics than about the method of propulsion.
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"[i]GM announced on Friday that it would be spending $854 million to make its sixth-generation small block V8, and $64 million to help its EV efforts, in news that sounds like it belongs in a different year but isn’t. The news also confirms that a sixth-generation small block V8 is happening, which GM says it intends to use to “strengthen its industry-leading full-size truck and SUV business.” I personally do not think it would be crazy to design and build a big cube spark ignition V8 that could run on gasoline, propane, cng, or butanol, and push it for 18 wheel trucks. Maybe pay Mazda to co-develop it. Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel with DEF fluid and particulate filters is no longer the low cost per 500,000 mile option. There is NOTHING low cost about any of that aftertreatment crap. Just keeping it running will bankrupt you. Kevin
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