Re: 'new' engine
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I just had to throw the Predators on the block and see things like pushrod angles, etc and was hoping to get some primary header trajectories started but I wound-up getting sick for about a week. High-ports!
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Re: 'new' engine
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Looking good! Out of curiosity what numbers are you seeing, what do you consider bad? Excellent question and i have to use an asterisk to explain. I could say 'it depends' and be right too. Any OEM roller bearing wheel I have measured they typically wear-in and loosen .0002" from new and when they move after that they are on there way to failing. I have measured a few Comps with an .820" wheel and these in pic are Isky .850" wheel. TYPICALLY, I see about .0005" (plus or minus .0001") to start. I have done so many OEM to gage, that you'll see as much variation 'operator to operator' as .0002" even with me measuring i may get some lifters that 'start' at say .0006 and the next time i measure it'll get .0005" It's when they get close to .0009" + that it'll concern me. BUT again I've seen some START about .0008" Hope this makes sense!
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Re: 'new' engine
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More mock-ups, more 'problems'... I see the finger pointing. What is the issue? Doug
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Re: 'new' engine
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Can’t wait to see it finished and the results!
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Re: 'new' engine
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Preditors versus B1? It must be a given the predators could be set up with superior hp potential, yet still run a cam that won't beat everything to death. Also the non paired exhaust is a big benefit i would think, keeping heat more even between the center cylinder exhausts promoting better valve seal. What goals do you have for power, engine size, rpm range? I am guessing a predator motor could be set up to have 1100 hp and yet still have reasonable number of runs between rebuilds/ maintenance?
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Re: 'new' engine
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Preditors versus B1? It must be a given the predators could be set up with superior hp potential, yet still run a cam that won't beat everything to death. Also the non paired exhaust is a big benefit i would think, keeping heat more even between the center cylinder exhausts promoting better valve seal. What goals do you have for power, engine size, rpm range? I am guessing a predator motor could be set up to have 1100 hp and yet still have reasonable number of runs between rebuilds/ maintenance? Thanks Wes. I really just need to get the car up and running again to learn and have some fun. These were the pieces I had long set aside when i was thinking "the fastest I'll ever want to go and afford ...8.50 chassis etc" This is your old block from the Dart FWIW. Greg, these are 440-1 Indy's that were cnc'd at Modern many years ago with 2.25" Ti valves and minor hand work. I can't get the Predators up to speed in time with new valves etc. (they need refreshening) and my current PG trans would 'cry like a little girl' if i put an 'easy on parts' Predator combo on it. It'll be legal for NA 10.5 or my local tracks 'all-motor' class which has rules that correct for different combos. The -1 combo can weight 2775 lbs at 480" I'm trying to make as much power as i can with the parts I have, I don't care how high it has to RPM. Speaking of cams I can't find anyone with a wedge 55mm 4/7 swap so, I'll be running this 'less than ideal' cam that has no additional material for regrinding. It only has a .480" lobe on it so, that will be one bottle-neck.
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Re: 'new' engine
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I have a 54mm Bullet 4/7 swap cam that was in my 588, if your willing to switch bearings. are your running Babbit, or roller?
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Re: 'new' engine
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I have a 54mm Bullet 4/7 swap cam that was in my 588, if your willing to switch bearings. are your running Babbit, or roller? It is 55MM babbit .Wasn't aware there is such a bearing, i assume it has the same OD but a smaller ID? Was this in a B1? I sent you a PM.
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Re: 'new' engine
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That's a rowdy looking group of gearheads right there.
The valve covers are a classic institution of the 1970's Direct Connection catalog. While I am sure they won't be used in the final rendition you see them on some bery successful race cars in old pictures.
I really dig that roller lifter lash tool. Can you put some simple blue prints on a napkin and post it?
I think the "just have fun" approach is healthy. Not being the competitive type my time at the track is more of a social event. If racing goes okay that is a bonus lol. Days off of work shouldn't be successful!
Moving forward,.you really need to get aluminum valve covers and trim those studs before dvw does something crazy like install a fiberglass hood. : D
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Re: 'new' engine
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That's a rowdy looking group of gearheads right there.
The valve covers are a classic institution of the 1970's Direct Connection catalog. While I am sure they won't be used in the final rendition you see them on some bery successful race cars in old pictures.
I really dig that roller lifter lash tool. Can you put some simple blue prints on a napkin and post it?
I think the "just have fun" approach is healthy. Not being the competitive type my time at the track is more of a social event. If racing goes okay that is a bonus lol. Days off of work shouldn't be successful!
Moving forward,.you really need to get aluminum valve covers and trim those studs before dvw does something crazy like install a fiberglass hood. : D Anything you can seat the lifer on ‘square’ this has 2 surfaces that locate. Having an ‘adjustable’ seat makes it modular for other lifters. Then mount a high resolution indicator in a way that pics up the centerline of the wheel and then pry the wheel to gage lash…verify it repeats and viola! He’s using old school M/T aluminum covers with a -12 vacuum fitting welded in place. Some of the stuff in pic was to ship it.
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Re: 'new' engine
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Preditors versus B1? It must be a given the predators could be set up with superior hp potential, yet still run a cam that won't beat everything to death. Also the non paired exhaust is a big benefit i would think, keeping heat more even between the center cylinder exhausts promoting better valve seal. What goals do you have for power, engine size, rpm range? I am guessing a predator motor could be set up to have 1100 hp and yet still have reasonable number of runs between rebuilds/ maintenance? Thanks Wes. I really just need to get the car up and running again to learn and have some fun. These were the pieces I had long set aside when i was thinking "the fastest I'll ever want to go and afford ...8.50 chassis etc" This is your old block from the Dart FWIW. Greg, these are 440-1 Indy's that were cnc'd at Modern many years ago with 2.25" Ti valves and minor hand work. I can't get the Predators up to speed in time with new valves etc. (they need refreshening) and my current PG trans would 'cry like a little girl' if i put an 'easy on parts' Predator combo on it. It'll be legal for NA 10.5 or my local tracks 'all-motor' class which has rules that correct for different combos. The -1 combo can weight 2775 lbs at 480" I'm trying to make as much power as i can with the parts I have, I don't care how high it has to RPM. Speaking of cams I can't find anyone with a wedge 55mm 4/7 swap so, I'll be running this 'less than ideal' cam that has no additional material for regrinding. It only has a .480" lobe on it so, that will be one bottle-neck. LOL. Nice! That motor's pieces have quite a few new adoptive parents! Good luck with it!!!
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Re: 'new' engine
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It is close for sure, but can slide a piece of paper in there The picture makes it look much closer than it is, should be plenty of room there but time will tell for sure. Consequences of a big pushrod and a tie bar lifter. Should have gone to a keyway deal but this is just a bracket engine. Not anything crazy for sure.
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Re: 'new' engine
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That's a rowdy looking group of gearheads right there.
The valve covers are a classic institution of the 1970's Direct Connection catalog. While I am sure they won't be used in the final rendition you see them on some bery successful race cars in old pictures.
I really dig that roller lifter lash tool. Can you put some simple blue prints on a napkin and post it?
I think the "just have fun" approach is healthy. Not being the competitive type my time at the track is more of a social event. If racing goes okay that is a bonus lol. Days off of work shouldn't be successful!
Moving forward,.you really need to get aluminum valve covers and trim those studs before dvw does something crazy like install a fiberglass hood. : D Anything you can seat the lifer on ‘square’ this has 2 surfaces that locate. Having an ‘adjustable’ seat makes it modular for other lifters. Then mount a high resolution indicator in a way that pics up the centerline of the wheel and then pry the wheel to gage lash…verify it repeats and viola! He’s using old school M/T aluminum covers with a -12 vacuum fitting welded in place. Some of the stuff in pic was to ship it. Thank you for the instructions. I will post a pic or two of what I come up with.
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Re: 'new' engine
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Awesome seeing the progress! Think you'll have it together in time for the May 5th heads up race at Milan?
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Re: 'new' engine
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Awesome seeing the progress! Think you'll have it together in time for the May 5th heads up race at Milan? That's the plan, much to do!
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Re: 'new' engine
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I love the old DC valve covers, but then again I'm pretty hopeless in that regard. Very confident it will be a screamer, whichever combination is chosen.
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Re: 'new' engine
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More mock-ups, more 'problems'... Could you explain why you used the insert verses a heli-coil? Thank You
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Re: 'new' engine
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More mock-ups, more 'problems'... Could you explain why you used the insert verses a heli-coil? Thank You In a word, that insert is more robust than a heli-coil. I left it up to the person that machined the head to make the call on what to use. From what i have HEARD the threads tend to rip-out when using no insert and just tapping the aluminum. So while a guy is here, may as well put something in there.
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Re: 'new' engine
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More mock-ups, more 'problems'... Could you explain why you used the insert verses a heli-coil? Thank You In a word, that insert is more robust than a heli-coil. I left it up to the person that machined the head to make the call on what to use. From what i have HEARD the threads tend to rip-out when using no insert and just tapping the aluminum. So while a guy is here, may as well put something in there. I have always heli-coiled pretty much everything aluminum (and even some old Stage 5 cast iron) but after seeing your pictures i got to thinking maybe heli-coils weren't always the way to go. i have both types on hand. Thank you for the reply.
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Re: 'new' engine
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I did the same thing as Sean with inserts. Actually Time-Serts. The reason for doing mine was to move the T&D bed plate outward .060" towards the valves. Since the Time-Sert is a larger diameter it made sence. The holes were offset bored. Then the inserts were able to be installed with no welding of te original holes. Doug So just for clarity here, I'm not sure where Doug's heads were initially machined (on what centerline) but if you move MINE, TOWARDS THE VALVE, it crashes the pushrod into the head! I'm just clarifying for anyone who might convert their heads to paired rockers with bolt-down stands. I can tell you we are using the same lifter seat height. A taller lifter seat would move the pushrod away from the head. ANOTHER VARIABLE is if the rockers had a different pivot but had the same ratio. But we also have the same rocker bodies! I can only assume with confidence that my original point of reference was on the same plain as the factory holes used for the original 5 'pedestal' holes. your results may vary lol
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Re: 'new' engine
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Mine were mounted in the original plane. Some of the original holes were just drilled deeper. When we moved them .060" toward the valve they only required minor trimming for the pushrods. Doug
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Re: 'new' engine
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Not sure what some of this has to do with the price of tea in China!? I can tell you on these heads now, with this cam, lifters, pushrods, 1.6 pivot/1.7ratio TD rocker system and 5.344 valve length with an .080" lash cap the centerline for the rocker bar hold-downs needs to move some away from the valve to allow for more lift. Getting the sweep adjusted optimal, moves the pushrod further into the head AND BOLT/STUD besides all that moving the centerline towards the valve compromises the angularity on the backside of the rocker. I'm probably sweating nothing here? but with open loads over 1000lbs and rpm over 8000, it isn't going to be a bracket build from my perspective. To clarify "Getting the sweep adjusted optimal" is done in this case, by milling the rocker bar pad down further. So, it "...moves the pushrod further int..."
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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In an act of desperation I put a request for a 55mm thrust bearing on FB and Jim Clarke (aka TS3103) came thru the next day so i could do some mock-up work. Thanks JIM!
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Manton PR 'example' and B1 piston modeling So I take it the B1 piston valve reliefs will work with your Indy 440-1 heads? Did you take a picture of the clay after turning the motor over?
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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at least your guard doggy isn't asleep........... a question though, why a small block damper on a big block, although you have the timing mark where you need it. was the reciprocating assembly balanced using that damper, or are the damper weights the same [or close enough] to be able to be swapped ? just trying to learn something here. It's a neutral balance damper...i just wanted to locate the ZERO in a visible place.
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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at least your guard doggy isn't asleep........... a question though, why a small block damper on a big block, although you have the timing mark where you need it. was the reciprocating assembly balanced using that damper, or are the damper weights the same [or close enough] to be able to be swapped ? just trying to learn something here. It's a neutral balance damper...i just wanted to locate the ZERO in a visible place. thank you sir.
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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More diff ways to skin a cat, I use 2 of the upper row head bolts to anchor the head to bench and use the typical in-car jesel spring tool. Also tailored the rocker bar bolts to length on the lathe.
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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After sorting this all, I ordered some 7/16x.168" straight-wall pushrods from Manton with .040 restrictors. I had an intake manifold flange from my buddies 1400HP single-4 565" BBC and laid on the deck-surface to gage why his makes so much more power than my 440-1's (in the background) The old NMCA Real Street class rules used to have a weight adder determined by how raised off the deck surface the intake port floor was. Thought that was a pretty clever way of trying to even things out. Looking good!
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The old NMCA Real Street class rules used to have a weight adder determined by how raised off the deck surface the intake port floor was. Thought that was a pretty clever way of trying to even things out. Looking good!
NMCa still uses that in the rules for NA10.5. Seperates heads in to categories for weight based on distance off the deck. As well as a few other things
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Removed old SS .045 o-rings from deck...that was fun? Replaced with copper and filed down flush... You are good with a file.
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Removed old SS .045 o-rings from deck...that was fun? Replaced with copper and filed down flush... That's crazy how clean that came out, it almost looks like the groove has been somehow welded with copper wire.
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Removed old SS .045 o-rings from deck...that was fun? Replaced with copper and filed down flush... That's crazy how clean that came out, it almost looks like the groove has been somehow welded with copper wire. Lol...patience grasshopper. Now hopefully it seals!
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Would look better with different heads Thanks again everyone! Noone in their right mind would argue there. Headers and plug changes look like FUN on that!
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Would look better with different heads Thanks again everyone! Noone in their right mind would argue there. Headers and plug changes look like FUN on that! Headers aren't really bad! These were made by Ernie M (local guy) for John Burdine For a B body RB engine. John was generous to sell them. Six of the eight are almost a bolt-in and two need remade. I didnt check for plug access but it can't be bad? IDK And I won't know soon because I took that mock-up out last night to make room for the KB/440-1 install! I have to say I owning and handling the Predator stuff now makes me reevaluate (at this point in time/race season's is over) why I'm playing with the 'inferior' top-ends.
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Hey are you doing cars shows or racing? Come on now. Doug Says this guy
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Looking good. And the glide, BBM thing has gotten kinda out of hand. I have never really had many issues with this before but dang sure do now....Looking good!!
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Would look better with different heads Thanks again everyone! Noone in their right mind would argue there. Nice valve covers,I believe those covers once belonged to Tom Debartalo. I believe the guy you bought those from, I sold a set of new T&D rocker stands to. There is one set left of billet covers that were never used to my knowledge .. he is or was a member here,the guy in Australia that used to run drag week with a silver Predator headed drag drive car. as far as I know he never use them, might do some foot work if someone wanted a pair. I still do on the program for these if I was able to sell five sets, I could have more made
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Would look better with different heads Thanks again everyone! Noone in their right mind would argue there. Nice valve covers,I believe those covers once belonged to Tom Debartalo. I believe the guy you bought those from, I sold a set of new T&D rocker stands to. There is one set left of billet covers that were never used to my knowledge .. he is or was a member here,the guy in Australia that used to run drag week with a silver Predator headed drag drive car. as far as I know he never use them, might do some foot work if someone wanted a pair. I still do on the program for these if I was able to sell five sets, I could have more made Thanks guys! Yes, I've bought a few hand-me-downs from Tom and a few people in this thread! Because I'm doing some welding along with a few electrical changes, I like to remove all grounds to avoid the possibility of the HV backfeeding misc components. So I snapped a few pics to anyone that may benefit!
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Wow looking great HC! When is the tentative test session?
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Wow looking great HC! When is the tentative test session? Thank you! Racing starts next weekend so I hope to be out there tested somewhat. The firesystems are built to order and 'charged' just prior to ship so that won't be available prior. I'm also working on a bolt-in passenger-seat area to house 'obsolete' 25# weight plates to reach min weight.
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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I hear Milan is racing next weekend You are correct sir!
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Re: 'new' engine UPDATES 440-1cnc
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Thanks Don! Maybe we'll see you out this year? I plan to be at 131 all of Memorial Day weekend. Probably be my first outing. Gonna go to 42 first week of August for Mopar event( be my first time there) Norwalk in Sept for Mopar deal London, Ky early Oct for Mopar event, and probably several regular bracket race deals as time/ work allows. Yea, would love to see that deal of yours go down the track. Bad hombre.
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