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rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yourself??? #311064 05/07/09 07:05 PM 05/07/09 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 89 D dodgetoys OP member
dodgetoys OP member D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 89	Or send to a specialty shop (Passon) or the local trans shop?? Tried to talk to a local trans shop for a relative cost quoted $250 to tear down and inspect. the trans is out of a low mileage Charger (17,000 mails) but has been in storage for at least 25+ years Thanks

Re: rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yourself??? [Re: dodgetoys] #311065 05/07/09 08:44 PM 05/07/09 08:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 938 Poplar Bluff, Mo. 63901 2 268RTs4ME super stock
268RTs4ME super stock 2 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 938 Poplar Bluff, Mo. 63901	If it was me I would do it myself , if you have never done one before get yourself a manual, there not hard , but remember cleanliness, and patients, sometimes it takes 4 hands. If you have problems, theres lots of info and help on MOPARTS''' Last edited by 268RTs4ME; 05/07/09 08:45 PM.

Re: rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yourself??? [Re: dodgetoys] #311066 05/07/09 08:53 PM 05/07/09 08:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,267 midwest S sg333e super street
sg333e super street S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,267 midwest	Take the side cover off and inspect it yourself. You'll know pretty fast if you're going to have a problem by the condition of the second gear teeth. Hobbies and associated message boards: 1970 Cuda 440+6 FE5 H6X9 4 SP> Moparts.com 1987 Grand National (422rwhp/566tq)> TurboBuick.com 2008 BMW 335 TT 6MT> E90Post.com 2008 Gary Fisher HiFi Plus 29er > MTBR.com 2008 German Shorthair Pointer > Shorthairs.net

Re: rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yoursel [Re: sg333e] #311067 05/07/09 09:28 PM 05/07/09 09:28 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA RoadRunnerJD master
RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	Drive it and see. It's unlikely to have any damage with that low miles. It can take a lot of abuse. Why spend good money on it unless there's actually something wrong with it! If it's out of the car, take the side cover off and check it out for chipped teeth and excessive metal filings in the oil. They all have some in it from normal use. A little even wear is fine. Put a yoke in it and see if it rotates smoothly and if there's any bearing noise. Change the rear seal if it's dry or leaking. Drive it and see. It's probably fine just with a little cleanup and a rear seal.

Re: rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yourself??? [Re: dodgetoys] #311068 05/07/09 09:49 PM 05/07/09 09:49 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA H HPMike master
HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Quote: Or send to a specialty shop (Passon) or the local trans shop?? Tried to talk to a local trans shop for a relative cost quoted $250 to tear down and inspect. the trans is out of a low mileage Charger (17,000 mails) but has been in storage for at least 25+ years Thanks It's gotta be torn down... The gaskets and seals will be harder than Chinese arithmetic from sitting that long and the unit will likely leak like a sieve even if it does work fine. Another good reason to reseal it(at the very least), is to take advantage of the new fluids(GM Synchrmesh), which will allow the trans to shift far better than before but is less forgiving than the 80w/90 when it comes to seal integrity. I have been building these units for more than 25 yrs. NP833's are the easiest of the musclecar era 4 speeds to build. The Muncies,T10's and Toploaders are all a little harder, but not really too bad either. The biggest problem that a novice or first timer has is not getting rhe unit apart and back together, but rather not knowing what to look for when examining the parts for wear and or damage. It may make it into all 4 gears, but may grind, pop out of gear, or any other related problem if you are not aware of what to look for. Pay attention to the clutching teeth on the speed gears, especially 3rd. The brass rings should lay on the cone of the gear with some clearance at the bottom. If the ring bottoms out on the gear, than it's going to grind. Loose hub and sleeve fit and worn clutching teeth will also cause the unit to pop out of gear, especially on decel. Up until a few years ago, I was scrounging around and beating the bushes for parts for these. Now, the part availability is much better. The only problem now is that the 308 bearings for these are mostly coming from overseas and are lacking in overall metallurgy and quality to the American counterparts. MB

Re: rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yourself??? [Re: dodgetoys] #311069 05/08/09 09:44 AM 05/08/09 09:44 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 869 Sugarloaf, PA. USA J JamiePasson super stock
JamiePasson super stock J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 869 Sugarloaf, PA. USA	We will be happy to help you out with any rebuild parts that you need. OR, if you are not confident rebuilding it, we can certainly take care of rebuilding it for you. As for the mileage. That is not always a good indicator of condition. We have had units in here that had 80,000 miles on them and if I had to guess, I would have said that they had 8,000. Vise Versa, we have had units in with 18,000 miles on them that if I had to guess, I would have said 180,000. So, the overall condition of the car is a better indicator I think. Either way, if you have questions, you can certainly contact us. We are here to help. As for the "offshore" stuff. All I can say, is "just be careful." I have been more than worried with some of the reproduction parts that I have seen for these units that have been coming in from Korea, China, Taiwan. All of our stuff that we make is MADE IN THE USA. We are PROUD of that too. We are willing to invest the time and money that it takes to make a product that is better than the original and we do it HERE!. We still have some SKF USA Made 308 SG8 bearings left. Jamie

Re: rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yoursel [Re: JamiePasson] #311070 05/08/09 01:00 PM 05/08/09 01:00 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,179 California mickm master
mickm master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,179 California	Quote: We will be happy to help you out with any rebuild parts that you need. and by the way, jamie gets a big from me and many other people on this board!

Re: rebuilding 833 4sp...........send out or do yoursel [Re: mickm] #311071 05/11/09 12:02 AM 05/11/09 12:02 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ 6 69L78Nova Banned. Forever.
69L78Nova Banned. Forever. 6 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ	From my experience, the 833 is one of the easiest boxes to rebuild 1969 Nova 454/M21/3.31 Mild mid-11 second weekend cruiser 1994 F150 XLT Super Cab 2WD 5.0/4R70W/3.55 (Daily driver)

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