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Re: TF270 low deck stroker camshaft suggestion? [Re: Streetwize] #3107978
01/03/23 12:35 PM
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Quick update, I just got a quote from Mike Jones for my 517 thinking about getting a little more lift (.595/583 with 1.6's and taking a little duration out of the 264/268 @.050 on 108 HR Bullet cam that's in it now

He's recommending a 252/260 @.050 on 110 with .624/624 lift which Ironically is really close to what I had (252/258) in my old 508/Stage V iron head motor.

I was curious to know what the custom grind AndyF ran that worked better than the off the shelf grind in the 511's.

The Cam I have is a beast, I love it it's just with the Charger being more of a collector car now as compared to the old school days, I think a want a little crisper part throttle / roll-on torque and can live without the maybe 30 i might be giving up above 5500 or so. The motor was supposed to go in lighter A body but it really doesn't feel over-cammed.

I still may go to an endurance Solid roller similar to what's in my 440 W2 small block, I'd really like to get the offset cup BAM lifters to straighten out the pushrods and also allow me to run a longer pushrod as well. The BAM lifters work really well I have both the offset and non offset type in 2 of my small blocks.


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Re: TF270 low deck stroker camshaft suggestion? [Re: Streetwize] #3109264
01/06/23 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Streetwize
I would think the mildly ported TF270's would be pretty close in flow numbers (=/- 10 cfm in the .300-.700 lift range) to my Chapman stage 6's that Fast flow tested many years ago now. IIRC mine flow 280+ at .400, 335-ish at .500 and 360+ at .600

My 517 runs a Larry Smith ported '337 intake and a Bullet HR with 264/268 @.050 and around .600 lift with 1.6 rockers. The only difference is my motor's static is about 11.5:1 and I run the cam in early at 102 ICL with a 108 spread. It's a beast at all RPM and I run a fairly tight 4400 stall 9 1/2" converter with 3.54 gears in a 4000 lb w/d 70 charger. It revs like a comp eliminator motor. I think with a 10.5 motor I'd drop down to something like a 255/259 Ultradyne solid street roller Roller with the .4033 endurance lobes....which would match my present .200-up lift durations and still be mild enough for street driving. You can get a 1.7:1 hughes rocker to take the advertised lift from .605 to .680 ish, that would be the way I'd go for your combo.

That said if I were running an O/D for 70 mph with my motor for sum 70 mph cruising the cam is probably a little big unless you're cruising at maybe 2800. I can't imagine trying to hook up my motor with a stick shift unless I could get a really wide gear pattern, there's just too much torque and the motor is too responsive for street tires to deal with.

With the value of 2nd gen Chargers through the roof I only cruise the car and don't really race it for fear of buckling the quarter panel seams so I'm going to de-tune it a bit and probably either sell this motor or drop it into something like a 71 coronet that I can beat on properly.




With the Bullet HR with 264/268 @.050 what brand (part number) HR lifters are you running? Do you feel that the weight of the HR lifters is a restriction in any way? Can you please lay out your oiling system? any special mods?

Last edited by cudaerik; 01/06/23 05:10 AM.

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Re: TF270 low deck stroker camshaft suggestion? [Re: cudaerik] #3110370
01/09/23 03:36 PM
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I spent a lot of time setting up the valvetrain and I' can say the weight of the lifters doesn't seem to have any adverse effects on the motors ability to rev, it hits like a comp eliminator motor. My lifters are the Cranes that became very desirable and hard to get once Crane filed for Bankruptcy back in the early 2000's.

I don't think the Bullet cam I run would be ideal for your lower compression and overdrive, I do believe the 102 ICL (+6 advance) I run is one of the keys to this combo working so well.


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World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: TF270 low deck stroker camshaft suggestion? [Re: Streetwize] #3110446
01/09/23 10:03 PM
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One of Andys engines ran the Comp HXL lobe intake profile and the HXX exhaust.
I though the size was in the 260's?
My 499(500) stroker uses the HXL lobes intake and exhaust, but I think that might be too agressive on the exhaust side?
I don't know exactly the difference is on the HXX exhaust lobes (don't have one to measure), but I think my combo would be better with a bit slower opening profile, and maybe just running a 1.5:1 rocker on the exhaust side.

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