|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: cudagee]
#3102145
12/14/22 01:22 AM
12/14/22 01:22 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,479
Minnesota
Hemi_Joel
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,479
Minnesota
|
I haven't heard of them before. Hopefully someone can report their experience.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: cudagee]
#3102165
12/14/22 09:06 AM
12/14/22 09:06 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,635
Stuttgart, Arkansas
rickseeman
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,635
Stuttgart, Arkansas
|
I've looked at their stuff on ebay. The prices are sure good. I think I have some of their regular rockers. They look fine. The price is so good I think you should give them a shot. I would buy with the roller rockers.
2011 Drag Pak Challenger
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: rickseeman]
#3102173
12/14/22 09:28 AM
12/14/22 09:28 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,978
U.S.S.A.
JohnRR
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,978
U.S.S.A.
|
I've looked at their stuff on ebay. The prices are sure good. I think I have some of their regular rockers. They look fine. The price is so good I think you should give them a shot. I would buy with the roller rockers. I have not heard rave reviews for those rockers on ebay. They are cheap for a reason and cheaping out on rockers , especially on a Hemi , is not something one should do. 
running up my post count some more .
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: cudagee]
#3102174
12/14/22 09:32 AM
12/14/22 09:32 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,357
Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,357
Marion, South Carolina [><]
|
Look similar to the DLI roller rockers.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
#3102229
12/14/22 12:32 PM
12/14/22 12:32 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,564
Motor City
6PKRTSE
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,564
Motor City
|
I almost went with a set of those rockers on my Hemi but choose not to take a chance by cheaping out, so I decided to go with the Barton rocker system.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: JohnRR]
#3102248
12/14/22 01:27 PM
12/14/22 01:27 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,105
Byron, NY
W.I.N. Racing
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,105
Byron, NY
|
I've looked at their stuff on ebay. The prices are sure good. I think I have some of their regular rockers. They look fine. The price is so good I think you should give them a shot. I would buy with the roller rockers. I have not heard rave reviews for those rockers on ebay. They are cheap for a reason and cheaping out on rockers , especially on a Hemi , is not something one should do.  Cheep parts get real expensive  I just tried to search them (Product Innovation) on the WWW and came up empty... Conversely I've been on the lookout for some used rocker for a cackle motor (no Spring pressure or RPM) and these may fit the bill.
'01 P1500, Blown/Inj BAE,/Veney ,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60
'01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust,
'05 Dodge Magnum R/T - Too Much to list
'60 Willys CJ5
'01 International LPX - Project,DT466, Allison
'64 Plymouth Valiant, Inj 528 Hemi, 2spd
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: W.I.N. Racing]
#3102298
12/14/22 03:03 PM
12/14/22 03:03 PM
|
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,383
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,383
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
|
I can tell you, I called Indy on a complete set just the other week as I have a brand new Hemi block sitting here, and they are $3600 with everything but push rods, but they are at least 18 weeks or worse as the foundry hasn't made any in a year....Called Barton, and those are $4900 and 10-12 weeks...
I am willing to part with my complete Indy set WITH push rods for less than new so I can upgrade to the Bartons if someone is interested. I can't go $.50 on the dollar, but I could go $.75 on the dollar...And they are available today! Maybe even the block...
I may upgrade anyways and just save these for the other block.
I am in Lockport NY...
Last edited by Dragula; 12/14/22 03:04 PM.
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: W.I.N. Racing]
#3102501
12/15/22 10:59 AM
12/15/22 10:59 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 177
Idaho
boomerodell
member
|
member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 177
Idaho
|
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274044247904?hash=item3fce4f5f60:g:hMEAAOSwcWpbe3Qd Personally I think they look similar to the Mancini house brand rockers. With the long adjuster and design. Might be worth a call to Mancini first, they will tell you who makes the ones they sell. Also if they are the same company maybe they can give you some feedback. For the roller version they do look like DLI. https://www.manciniracing.com/indy14.html
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: Dragula]
#3102634
12/15/22 06:12 PM
12/15/22 06:12 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 154
Canada
cuda499
member
|
member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 154
Canada
|
I can tell you, I called Indy on a complete set just the other week as I have a brand new Hemi block sitting here, and they are $3600 with everything but push rods, but they are at least 18 weeks or worse as the foundry hasn't made any in a year....Called Barton, and those are $4900 and 10-12 weeks...
I am willing to part with my complete Indy set WITH push rods for less than new so I can upgrade to the Bartons if someone is interested. I can't go $.50 on the dollar, but I could go $.75 on the dollar...And they are available today! Maybe even the block...
I may upgrade anyways and just save these for the other block.
I am in Lockport NY...
I bought the barton a little over a year ago and thought they were 3800-4000.... so I checked rays site and they list for 4200.... I wasnt going to chance anything, I know what my plans are with the motor and rocker gear isnt the place to cheap out when you want to run some RPM.... Now with that being said, Ive ran some steel bodied norris rockers, and that motor got shifted at 8k and never had any issues.
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: Hot 340]
#3102764
12/16/22 05:28 AM
12/16/22 05:28 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 707
California
BigDaddy440
super stock
|
super stock
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 707
California
|
I see that now...I guess I was looking at the setup used for the edelbrock head comparing it to the regular Barton setup..I know the edelbrock is a rolled valve angle head..but the base looks awesome Does the Edelbrock head not use the typical Barton setup? What would be the reason?
1969 A12 Roadrunner
1970 Plymouth Cuda
1968 Dodge Dart
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: A727Tflite]
#3102804
12/16/22 11:13 AM
12/16/22 11:13 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,635
Stuttgart, Arkansas
rickseeman
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,635
Stuttgart, Arkansas
|
Anyone here broken a factory Hemi rocker arm as a direct result of arm failure?
Wonder why the bad rap on factory arms. Except the ratios being off from time to time. I don't think anyone has broken one. It's just that the roller rockers look sexier. And in your mind the roller tip has to be easier on the guides. Not that anyone is going to actually be driving a 426 Hemi any miles to speak of. This isn't the old days. I've never torn down a stock street hemi that the guides weren't worn out.
2011 Drag Pak Challenger
|
|
|
Re: 426 Hemi Valvetrain Question
[Re: rickseeman]
#3102806
12/16/22 11:20 AM
12/16/22 11:20 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,395
Pa
Hot 340
master
|
master
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,395
Pa
|
Anyone here broken a factory Hemi rocker arm as a direct result of arm failure?
Wonder why the bad rap on factory arms. Except the ratios being off from time to time. I don't think anyone has broken one. It's just that the roller rockers look sexier. And in your mind the roller tip has to be easier on the guides. Not that anyone is going to actually be driving a 426 Hemi any miles to speak of. This isn't the old days. I've never torn down a stock street hemi that the guides weren't worn out. and you really think a roller tip that operates the full sweep closer to the stem center ISN'T easier on the guides than the stock rockers that hang off the edge of the stem at the beginning of the sweep?
|
|
|
|
|
