Re: Modern seats old car
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12/02/22 03:24 AM
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Two hot wires, and two grounds, per seat, but both seats can use the same power and ground for the same use.
One set of power and ground for the seat movement, I'd make that battery power so you can move the seat with out the the ignition having to be "on". Generally, the power comes in on a center post, and the button directs which motor gets grounded to work, for each seat.
One set of power and and ground for the heat, I would pull that of the acc side of the switch, you don't want the seat heaters on if the car is not running. Should be simple power on or power off, but it might be separated between butt heat or back heat per seat.
The restraint system you probably don't want or need.
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Re: Modern seats old car
[Re: poorboy]
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12/02/22 07:08 AM
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Two hot wires, and two grounds, per seat, but both seats can use the same power and ground for the same use.
One set of power and ground for the seat movement, I'd make that battery power so you can move the seat with out the the ignition having to be "on". Generally, the power comes in on a center post, and the button directs which motor gets grounded to work, for each seat.
One set of power and and ground for the heat, I would pull that of the acc side of the switch, you don't want the seat heaters on if the car is not running. Should be simple power on or power off, but it might be separated between butt heat or back heat per seat.
The restraint system you probably don't want or need. Was thinking about setting up a separate fuse block for this and any future additions . Was thinking about setting up a relay from the New block triggered by the ignition switch for the heaters . I don’t want the restraint system . but will not using it negatively affect the seatbelt operation?
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Re: Modern seats old car
[Re: moparx]
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12/02/22 04:30 PM
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i'm not quite sure, but isn't the restraint system tied into the BCM on the new stuff ? if so, wouldn't that affect the way the latch system activates in a sudden stop/crash situation ?  Also didn't that year come with the spring-loaded headrests that pop forward in a rear-end collision? I think those are triggered by a 12v signal as well.
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Re: Modern seats old car
[Re: poorboy]
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12/03/22 12:21 PM
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Does the 2012 seats have their own seat belts attached?
I didn't think the crazy stuff started until after 2015. Seat belts are built in , that’s why I’m using them in the convertible. To all the other . Yes these are the things I need to work through . Will see if I can find wiring diagram on line .don’t want to purchase an fsm just for the seats info . Gary
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Re: Modern seats old car
[Re: hergfest]
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12/04/22 06:56 PM
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I put Sebring convertible seats in mine. They fold forward, and have 3 point belts built in
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Re: Modern seats old car
[Re: Andrewh]
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12/04/22 09:30 PM
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so I don't remember the exact details.
there was an older conversion using sebring seats.
the seatbelt had some controller needed so they would release when you opened the door, triggered by the door switch.
in the early model of the car, it is a seperate computer that can be pulled and used easily. later it got integrated to the ecu.
not sure if this is the same for you.
what 2012 model car did you pull these from? Chrysler 200 convertible
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Re: Modern seats old car
[Re: Andrewh]
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12/05/22 10:08 AM
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so I don't remember the exact details.
there was an older conversion using sebring seats.
the seatbelt had some controller needed so they would release when you opened the door, triggered by the door switch.
in the early model of the car, it is a seperate computer that can be pulled and used easily. later it got integrated to the ecu.
not sure if this is the same for you.
what 2012 model car did you pull these from? Here's a link to my install Sebring seat install Got the idea from this guy who put them in a corvair.- excellent resource as it has wiring diagram and detailed explanation of the electronic side of the job. Sebring Seats
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