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New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you #3086787
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Unprocessed red meat that is.

Research about what is healthy comes so thick and fast—red meat can appear good for you one week, stroke-inducing the next—that a confused public often struggles to keep up.

But a massive new review published on Monday aims to look beyond the latest study by evaluating the available evidence on a range of health topics and giving it a star rating.

The US-based Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), which has become a global reference for health statistics, analyzed the existing research in 180 areas to find out how much a particular risk factor, such as smoking, is linked to a health outcome, such as lung cancer.

The connection between smoking and lung cancer was given the highest five-star rating, as was the link between high blood pressure and heart disease, which means that the evidence is solid and unlikely to change in the future.

However nearly two thirds of the risk-outcome relationships received only one or two stars, suggesting that the proof for a lot of widely believed health advice is weaker than might have been thought.

For example, evidence for a connection between eating a lot of unprocessed red meat and having a stroke was given just one star, meaning there was "no evidence of an association", the study said.

The links between red meat and colon cancer, breast cancer, ischaemic heart disease and diabetes were all given two stars.




https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-10-bad-red-meat-health-star.html


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Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: DaveRS23] #3086817
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Unprocessed red meat that is.

Research about what is healthy comes so thick and fast—red meat can appear good for you one week, stroke-inducing the next—that a confused public often struggles to keep up.

But a massive new review published on Monday aims to look beyond the latest study by evaluating the available evidence on a range of health topics and giving it a star rating.

The US-based Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), which has become a global reference for health statistics, analyzed the existing research in 180 areas to find out how much a particular risk factor, such as smoking, is linked to a health outcome, such as lung cancer.

The connection between smoking and lung cancer was given the highest five-star rating, as was the link between high blood pressure and heart disease, which means that the evidence is solid and unlikely to change in the future.

However nearly two thirds of the risk-outcome relationships received only one or two stars, suggesting that the proof for a lot of widely believed health advice is weaker than might have been thought.

For example, evidence for a connection between eating a lot of unprocessed red meat and having a stroke was given just one star, meaning there was "no evidence of an association", the study said.

The links between red meat and colon cancer, breast cancer, ischaemic heart disease and diabetes were all given two stars.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-10-bad-red-meat-health-star.html



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Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: massdaytona] #3086853
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Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: DaveRS23] #3086895
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Latest research hints that there is nothing originally in red meat that is harmful,
but some of us are infected with a microbe that lives in our gut
that eats the “leftovers” from the red meat
and creates a harmful poison
that goes by its initials TMAO
that attacks our arteries.

Possibly we could take a drug that would interfere with that “bug”
then eat red meat without harm.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-arteries-age-explores-link-gut.html

sample quote

Eat a slab of steak or a plate of scrambled eggs, and your resident gut bacteria get to work immediately to break it down. As they metabolize the amino acids L-carnitine and choline, they churn out a metabolic byproduct called trimethylamine, which the liver converts to trimethylamine-N-Oxide (TMAO) and sends coursing through your bloodstream. Previous studies have shown that people with higher blood levels of TMAO are more than twice as likely to have a heart attack or stroke and tend to die earlier.
...snip...
On the flip side, old mice that ate a compound called
dimethyl butanol, (found in trace amounts in olive oil, vinegar and red wine)
saw their vascular dysfunction reverse. Scientists believe that this compound prevents the production of TMAO.

end quote

More from the Cleveland Clinic on this

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-12-red-meat-cardiovascular-disease.html

Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: DaveRS23] #3086902
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I am all for eating red meat I need the protein more than I need carbs.

If you go by the science then the only way to live forever is to eat nothing at all because everything is going to kill you if you eat it.... At least according to science. LOL

Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: IMGTX] #3086919
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Originally Posted by IMGTX
I am all for eating red meat I need the protein more than I need carbs.

If you go by the science then the only way to live forever is to eat nothing at all because everything is going to kill you if you eat it.... At least according to science. LOL


Yeah it's been a fact for decades that even AIR will kill you, and not anyone I know that has stopped breathing has lived to tell me about how much better and healthier it was to stop. wink

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Yeah well numbers don't lie ... I have a 95 year old aunt that says the secret to a long and healthy life is to eat plenty of whipped cream !!

Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: Stanton] #3086944
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They said the same thing about eggs, first good, then bad, now good again....and some would say women fit this category as well. shruggy whistling


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I always like to eat red meat.
And will live with the outcome

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Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: fc7_plumcrazy] #3087070
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Don't over consume calories, keep protein levels up, move and get sun light. Follow that very basic formula and you'll do better than 95% of the population.

Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: Stanton] #3087075
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Originally Posted by Stanton
Yeah well numbers don't lie ... I have a 95 year old aunt that says the secret to a long and healthy life is to eat plenty of whipped cream !!


There is now quite a bit of experimental evidence that dairy fat, including cream, is actually protective of our blood vessels.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-09-low-fat-dairy-heart-healthy-option.html

“All fat is poison”
was pushed by the American food “expert” Ancel Keys
who the US Army named the WW-II K-Ration after.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancel_Keys

Sadly, there is now over whelming evidence that he did not tell the truth about the diet experiments he was given US grant money to conduct.
Keys found out key truths, then wrote the opposite.

Re: New study: Red meat may not be that bad for you [Re: cudaman1969] #3087184
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Always thought red haired women were good for me.



hmmm..............why was i thinking the same ? whistling devil panic biggrin
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