Re: Index racing
[Re: redraptor]
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10/16/22 10:47 AM
10/16/22 10:47 AM
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jwb123
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Missouri
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I only race a few times a year anymore, but when I do I either match race with an NSS group or index race with a NSS group. From what I have seen the issue with index racing is the performance of people's cars fall outside the index, and it is easier and cheaper to just dial it in. I got turned off many years ago by delay boxes, throttle stops, and buy backs. Index racing makes it mostly about the driver, which I like. Even in NSS what few rules we have to keep the group unique is in constant question by people wanting to change the rules to fit what they want for their car and not what the group started with. I see the popularity of no-prep driven by several TV shows and by younger racers, and the tracks love it because it reduces the costs of running the track. My concern with no prep is super high HP cars on a slick track, it is not a question of if you will wreck your car it is a question of when. While wrecks are great for TV ratings and spectators, it is very hard on pocketbooks and bodies of the racers. At most of the nostalgia races I see lots of gray hair, and while tracks still have nostalgia races, many do not draw the big crowds they once did. I have raced at events in NSS and with street outlaw personalities, at the same race, and in our NSS pits were usually 30 to 40 old guys talking about the good old days, and a mob of several hundred around the street outlaw pits wanting T-shirts and autographs. Tracks have to do what they can to make money, after all they are selling entertainment.
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Re: Index racing
[Re: DavidDean]
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10/16/22 05:52 PM
10/16/22 05:52 PM
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CMcAllister
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Have to learn how to adjust the car to run the index (or maybe hold a couple), regardless conditions. Harder than just putting a different number on the window.
Throttle stop is only one way to do it.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Index racing
[Re: DusterKid]
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10/17/22 08:12 AM
10/17/22 08:12 AM
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11secdart
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I myself really enjoy index racing and I have been moderately successful at it I have a 10.90-11-00 car slowed down to run 11.50s via a throttle stop. My home track doesn't offer it so I have to travel two hours to run but its worth it. An advantage at most of the tracks I run at is you can run two classes : your index class ( 8.50. 10.00 or 11.50 ) and also Pro Dial which is basically a bracket / dial in class ran on a 5/10s pro tree. I prefer the 5/10s pro tree to the full tree and will probably be gearing my future racing to more of it.
68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV
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Re: Index racing
[Re: redraptor]
#3087110
10/18/22 10:36 AM
10/18/22 10:36 AM
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11secdart
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I don't know about spectators , there were a few in the stands this past Saturday during an Index race. The car count for 11.50 index was over 20 , at the big Halloween Index race 2 years ago there were over 50 cars first round, I know I qualified #1 with an 11.503 . Because its heads up it appears to be more popular than regular bracket racing.
68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV
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Re: Index racing
[Re: 11secdart]
#3087113
10/18/22 10:42 AM
10/18/22 10:42 AM
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GY3
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We have a lot of 6.50 and 5.80 index racing locally with the small tire and big tire heads up stuff. Heads up brings a lot of spectators. A lot more than bracket racing! A couple of smaller nostalgia races we do have, in the interest of time, went to taking the 4 fastest cars in every class and doing a heads up runoff with them. I enjoy these because I usually win!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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