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1969 A12 Road Runner Magazine Articles #3074648
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Does anyone know the month, year and name of the magazine in the A12 Playground Registry Road Tests, which features an A12 Road Runner test titled "The Original Hot Rod Test" and "The Original 440 6-BBL Drag Test"?
Also if anyone can give me references for any magazines over the years, be it recent or "back in the day" with original tests or restorations of A12 Road Runners only, once again with magazine name, month and year it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Try looking up “Six Pack to Go”. That one was a look back at the original article on the Ronnie Sox A12 test. I’m going to say that one came out 20 years ago.


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Some links over on the A12 Registry, you may have already seen?

http://sixpacksixbbl.homestead.com/a12roadtests.html

http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=print

http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=print/40

http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1232584911

Drag Racing Magazine June 1969 I think was really the first test of the A12 or co-happened at or about the same time as the Six Pack To Go Y'all, A12 Road Runner/Ronnie Sox versus the magazine editors?

http://sixpacksixbbl.homestead.com/a12roadtestspage12.html



LOVE this homologation story about the A12 and the NHRA and especially the bad@$$ driver of the Gratiot A12 Road Runner Lou Mancini

http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1514655330

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Super Stock & Drag Illustrated, June 1969 ==> http://sixpacksixbbl.homestead.com/a12roadtestspage12.html

I don't have my A12 RR any longer whiney , but I still have a copy of that magazine I picked up years ago which is kept in a Zip-Loc bag grin

Ro McGonegal also wrote an article a couple(?) of decades later giving more background on the whole SS&DI article, including what the factory "may" have done to the pre-production car to give it a leg up on a true off-the-showroom-floor car. I had a copy of one of the magazines in which that article was published, but think it was pitched during The Great Car Magazine Purge years ago... can't find a link online to it, either.

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100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Thanks for all the help. The magazine title, issue number and date i'm after is: http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1232584911. i'm looking to purchase this book and any others from back in the day or recent restoration articles of A12 Road Runners only. If any of you have issues you would sell, let me know, i have already purchased a few featured on the A12 Play Ground through Ebay
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At one point I had a number of magazines w/ articles on the A12 RR & SB. When I sold the car and then later got rid of years of magazines I'd kept, I probably tossed most of them. I'll look and see if I kept anything besides that one SS&DI issue, for reference, if nothing else.


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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A12 - your inbox is full.

Nice picture of that A12 at Indy.

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Originally Posted by Transman
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Nice picture of that A12 at Indy.

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Transman try again, hopefully I deleted enough?

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Originally Posted by Transman


Nice picture of that A12 at Indy.

whistling


How about a couple more?

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Brett, I searched for the cover of the Hot Rod Magazine article on the re-visit to the original Super Stock and Drag Illustrated (June 1969 issue) and sorry but no luck so far. I know I have it in a "safe" place, so safe even I can't find it blush confused laugh2, I looked at the properties of the scanned images (I posted in the A12 Registry) and see Febuary 15, 2004 so I'm guessing the Hot Rod issue with the behind the scenes on the original '69 Ronnie Sox/magazine editors drag test is somewhere around there?? Here are some scans of those articles:

Mike

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Here's the Super Stock Drag Illustrated June 1969 article:

Mike

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If they would just remove those two, 2-SEAT SPORTS CARS from the list guess what would be at the top of the list of quickest MID-SIZE, 5/6 PASSENGER, STEEL BODY, MUSCLE CARS! (Ok, I'm ready for the catfight from you Vette and Dorf Cobra kit SPORTS CAR LOVERS grin laugh2 )

(And sure it should "maybe" have been on the bottom "ringer" list but then again so should a lot of those cars on the top list like maybe the TWO, 2-SEAT, FIBERGLASS AND ALUMINUM, SPORTS CARS tonguue tonguue tonguue grin

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Mike - Yep, that's the other article I mentioned. It was published originally in Hot Rod, but I also saw it show up in another publication some years later. I don't think I have my original any longer, but you got the details right there.

Look at those pics from Cecil County in that article: everybody is wearing jackets and the trees haven't got any leaves on them. It was still late winter or really early spring when they ran that test and I'm guessing the air was killer that day.

That same car was tested later that year by some other long-forgotten car magazine and they were nowhere near the MPH the SS&DI crew saw on that day at CC. The other tests were done at Suffolk Raceway in SE Virginia, which was also right on the coast and had a number of records set there. But if the SS&DI test was Feb / March and the other magazine was in the summer, that's a major difference in atmospheric conditions.


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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(((EDIT)))

Brad for some reason I think this may have been the very first magazine test or maybe at the least the first to hit the newsstands ?? EDIT I'm wrong about this as I just read where they say this "This was proven LATER at Cecil County Drag-O-Way where in 36* degree weather (proves your point about the temps that day up ) , at a weight of 3765 pounds, (now how much do the aluminum Cobra and Vette fiberglass body cars weigh?, another dig sorry grin ) he cranked 12.98 - 111.66. So this test had to have been after the CC DOW test.

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I'm pretty sure it was Speed and Supercar magazine in their Oct 1969 issue that had the test of the same car used at Cecil County and could only manage a 13.88 at 106.13. I can only find a reference to it, but not the actual article, unfortunately.


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Brad, I think I have it and will post it later.....................(heading to the Penton Owners meeting wink )

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Thanks for all the replies and effort you have put in with this!! much appreciated. Further to my post, does anyone know if HOT ROD magazine did a feature / test or anything on the 69 A12 Road Runner only, back in 1968 / 69 and not the later article i have been looking for? If so would you know the month and year and also the same for Car Craft Magazine. The later Registry featured article is proving hard to find. Thanks again

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Brett, I don't think Hot Rod mag did a feature on the A12 back in the day, could be wrong but I have never seen one? BUT this photo did show up in Hot Rod magazine BUT again I think it was in a much later issue in I think a "looking back" type last page article. But that might mean it was a photo from an article from back so now you have me needing to research that wink

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Okay here's one that I get a chuckle out of because of what Buddy Martin is captured by the camera checking out. wink grin

Again another "Hot Rod Magazine" HRM image of an A12 Road Runner shruggy

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