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Re: How do they make profit?
[Re: larrymopar360]
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08/28/22 08:41 PM
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I know this has to be cheap junk but how can they sell and ship from China 6.5 feet of this for $7.50?!
Cause China still has that stupid agreement with the USPS to deliver that crap after it shows up on our shores. They (USPS) probably makes next to nothing with handling/delivery & the rear of us gets zapped with domestic increases.
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Re: How do they make profit?
[Re: PhillyRag]
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08/28/22 08:45 PM
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Put a mopar logo on it and its a $300 part. Not exactly but plastic trim, ect, Many things im using on a newer mopar project are made there and copies are sold for next to nothing but add mopar to the mix and boom its to the moon.
Some of the mopar stuff actually says "Made in China".
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Re: How do they make profit?
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08/28/22 09:48 PM
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Making a profit isn't the goal, running us out of manufacturing ability is. Mission accomplished.
It really doesn't matter whether you win or lose…
as long as you look good doing it!
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Re: How do they make profit?
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
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08/29/22 06:32 AM
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Put a mopar logo on it and its a $300 part. Not exactly but plastic trim, ect, Many things im using on a newer mopar project are made there and copies are sold for next to nothing but add mopar to the mix and boom its to the moon.
Some of the mopar stuff actually says "Made in China". Some?
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Re: How do they make profit?
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08/29/22 12:51 PM
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16 years ago we wanted to make some mandrel bent boost pipes. So T304 stainless pipe, 3 mandrel bends, a cut, then a tig welded section for a boost controller and a flange to bolt to throttle body. You get the idea. We found out china would make the whole thing for less than we could buy the straight section of 304 pipe for! I doubt you can buy much metal that doesn't come from China these days. A lot of our steel mills are down never to return. The companies over there probably get super cheap prices because they are selling company to company and no shipping between companies. Or they are doing what Ford did when he started the model T. The whole car was made by Ford. Castings, Stamped metal, upholstery, etc. all by Ford. I think the only thing they didn't make was the tires, light bulbs, and possibly the wires in the wiring. GM used to make it's own wiring. GM's Packard division made wiring. In an effort to create a company that can show imaginary/paper profits to keep investors happy, American companies will lease instead of buy and sub contract instead of making it themselves. It's a bad business model for long term stability & growth in my opinion. Samsung started by making 1 part of their TV's now they make about 98% of them. Grew like gangbusters over the years and not subject to another companies price gouging for a valuable part. Beside the Chinese probably up charge raw material if it is shipped here because they have to make money and don't want us manufacturing them out of business.
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Re: How do they make profit?
[Re: IMGTX]
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08/29/22 03:31 PM
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It's extruded foam. Its comes out of the machine like pasta or Play-Doh. Pasta which is made in the USA and might have a higher material cost than that foam. The operation to add the double sided tape might be a little trick. But it's all continuous feed automated. ,,. It's not real expensive to make. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.cplast.fr/contenus/images/fabrication/filiere-extrusion-profil-support-luminaire-PVC1.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Playdoh.jpg/607px-Playdoh.jpg)
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Re: How do they make profit?
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08/29/22 06:02 PM
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'cause it already came from China in bulk with a ton of other sh!t ! Read the ad ... "Located in: Rowland Heights, California, United States" I swear this got changed! It was in China!!!! It also had it written in English and Chinese.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: How do they make profit?
[Re: larrymopar360]
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08/29/22 08:32 PM
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'cause it already came from China in bulk with a ton of other sh!t ! Read the ad ... "Located in: Rowland Heights, California, United States" I swear this got changed! It was in China!!!! It also had it written in English and Chinese. Click on the feedback tab & CHINA is shown as seller.
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Re: How do they make profit?
[Re: larrymopar360]
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08/29/22 08:43 PM
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'cause it already came from China in bulk with a ton of other sh!t ! Read the ad ... "Located in: Rowland Heights, California, United States" I swear this got changed! It was in China!!!! It also had it written in English and Chinese. They've got to put it somewhere when it comes off the boat. For reference, here's a Google Street View of both sides of a random large street in Rowland Heights...
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Re: How do they make profit?
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08/29/22 09:28 PM
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Thanks, now I want Chinese food and there is only one place, 35 miles away. I guess raman noodles will have to do.
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Re: How do they make profit?
[Re: IMGTX]
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08/30/22 12:02 AM
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16 years ago we wanted to make some mandrel bent boost pipes. So T304 stainless pipe, 3 mandrel bends, a cut, then a tig welded section for a boost controller and a flange to bolt to throttle body. You get the idea. We found out china would make the whole thing for less than we could buy the straight section of 304 pipe for! I doubt you can buy much metal that doesn't come from China these days. A lot of our steel mills are down never to return. The companies over there probably get super cheap prices because they are selling company to company and no shipping between companies. Or they are doing what Ford did when he started the model T. The whole car was made by Ford. Castings, Stamped metal, upholstery, etc. all by Ford. I think the only thing they didn't make was the tires, light bulbs, and possibly the wires in the wiring. GM used to make it's own wiring. GM's Packard division made wiring. In an effort to create a company that can show imaginary/paper profits to keep investors happy, American companies will lease instead of buy and sub contract instead of making it themselves. It's a bad business model for long term stability & growth in my opinion. Samsung started by making 1 part of their TV's now they make about 98% of them. Grew like gangbusters over the years and not subject to another companies price gouging for a valuable part. Beside the Chinese probably up charge raw material if it is shipped here because they have to make money and don't want us manufacturing them out of business. There are many reasons why stuff produced in China is cheaper including: * Non-Existent environmental restrictions * Abundant workforce supply * Wage structure is low, increasing but still low compared to western economies * Certain new business startups can get special financing for new factory buildings, automation and machinery * New businesses often get special priorities But now economic conditions in China are getting tougher with the decrease in the global economy, and certain major industries are moving out of China to Vietnam, Indonesia, and Philipines. China continues to supply certain key components but now the assembly and final mass production is frequently done outside of China. As China tries to move up the ladder designing/building higher $$ ticket industrial and consumer products. I have traveled to China @least 30 times over the last 15 years, developing/sourcing products and negotiating significant purchases by major business brands/clients, the total of many of these purchases are in the high multi-million $$... Without an on-site local, experienced, sourcing QA team, there are no guarantees about final product quality. Just my $0.02... 
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Re: How do they make profit?
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08/30/22 01:22 PM
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When’s the last time you saw “made in Japan” ? I had to comment, interestingly enough I had a not too long ago purchased and rarely used made in China Ingersol rand 3/8 Drive air ratchet take a dump. So I called them even though it was way out of the warranty period. The tech instructed me to take it apart and send in pictures. OK. He responds with there is very little grease in the gear case and that likely led to the failure. I said the unit was never greased as it had less that 4 hours total use and there were no filings present, just teeth fractured at the root. He sent me a repair kit free of charge. Where I'm going with this is my backup was / is a 35+ year old J.I.T. air ratchet made in Japan that has been abused but never greaser and rarely oiled  But it works perfectly as do many other made in Japan tools ii have from that era. However my recent experiences with recently purchased made in Japan products have left me wondering if they are going the way we did in the late 70's early 80's. IE: their quality is beginning to slip. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see China, Taiwan or another take the lead on quality at reasonable pricing 
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