Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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whats the top of the piston look like? you can have a machine shop, cut a pocket into the top of the pistons. if the tops are thick enough, or you can you use a thicker cometic head gasket. might mess up your quench but would lower the compression Piston top is flat. I asked the builder if he could mill the pistons and he said no but haven’t considered a pocket
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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How do you get 14-1 ? I used a compression calculator and looks like your about 12.5. You can forget about quench and use a .125 cometic like previously mentioned and you’ll end up with about 10.25 https://diamondracing.net/p-10-compression-calculator.html
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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New pistons is the only decent solution. To reach 14 to 1 i bet there is a dome on your pistons?. Get the weight of the pistons you now have and see 2hat can be had that is close. If the lower compression pistons are lighter, maybe some heavier piston pins would get you close, or vise versa.
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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If it is really 12.5: 1 like mentioned above i'd just drive it. Lots of people use pump gas these days at higher compression, especially with large camshafts.
If you just want to put it around on the street you can use pump gas if you keep the load down even with the 14:1. Lots of drag week cars are super high compression but they go down the road on pump gas just fine.
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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This is the grudge engine I have been trying to get built over this year and a half.
It’s Hughes’ 360 base 426 stroker kit which in my case will effectively have 14.2:1 CR. However, I now need to drop that to 10:1 or so for pump gas. Yes, I called Hughes to see what they could do about different pistons but let’s just say I want to explore other options
I have trick flow heads which are 60 cc chamber
I’m open to suggestions
Thanks ! If that is a flattop piston deal, at 60 cc head,you are very likely around 12.4-12.5 compression. Not sure where you are coming up with over 14 to 1. That would take a dome piston with 60 cc heads. As mentioned, you can run a custom thicker cosmetic gasket to lower compression a good bit.
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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Have you considered E-85. For years we didn’t have it locally but now our Sheetz stations have it.
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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My dyslexia kicked in on the original post I meant it was going to be 12.4 : 1
my bad
It will ONLY see street time and honestly it probably won't get driven too much. I am not opposed to running race gas but if I can avoid it, I will
Thanks guys - all good info! I don't know what your cam is like but I would certainly be conservative on timing and try it out on pump. If it isn't driven often I am not sure I would run E85 but I have no experience with it.
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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My dyslexia kicked in on the original post I meant it was going to be 12.4 : 1
my bad
It will ONLY see street time and honestly it probably won't get driven too much. I am not opposed to running race gas but if I can avoid it, I will
Thanks guys - all good info! I don't know what your cam is like but I would certainly be conservative on timing and try it out on pump. If it isn't driven often I am not sure I would run E85 but I have no experience with it. Cam is Howards solid roller 277/285 .600/.600
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Re: Seeking options - lowering compression on SB 426
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My dyslexia kicked in on the original post I meant it was going to be 12.4 : 1
my bad
It will ONLY see street time and honestly it probably won't get driven too much. I am not opposed to running race gas but if I can avoid it, I will
Thanks guys - all good info! I don't know what your cam is like but I would certainly be conservative on timing and try it out on pump. If it isn't driven often I am not sure I would run E85 but I have no experience with it. Cam is Howards solid roller 277/285 .600/.600 That’s a TON of duration for your compression and small heads. Way more than I would run, even in a very racy combo with those heads
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