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Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe #3046066
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And data loggers are part of it, too. Won't be long 'till it's here, you can bet on that.

www.autotrader.co.uk/content/news/mandatory-speed-limiters-on-uk-cars-from-2022?refresh=true


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: DaveRS23] #3046091
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I am truly surprised that it hasn't come here yet, I figured I would start seeing it about 10 years ago. Pay by mileage is future to figure out how to tax us more... frown


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: Rhinodart] #3046123
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IIRC Buick had something similar in the 60's(?). You set it at a certain speed and when you went over that a buzzer sounded.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: stumpy] #3046125
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There are cars here with "governors" speed limiter on them. Our 2014 Toyota Venza has it and it is set a 110 MPH....don't ask how I know this, Lol.


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: 67vertman] #3046167
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What they need is a "get the F out of the left lane you Dbag" siren going off, especially 18 wheelers doing 55 in the left lane of an 80 mph limit highway pulling a rolling road block.

Ought to be open season on them.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: stumpy] #3046171
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Originally Posted by stumpy
IIRC Buick had something similar in the 60's(?). You set it at a certain speed and when you went over that a buzzer sounded.


Yup, we had a '65 LeSabre with that feature. Can't remember what it was called.


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: 67vertman] #3046183
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Originally Posted by 67vertman
There are cars here with "governors" speed limiter on them. Our 2014 Toyota Venza has it and it is set a 110 MPH....don't ask how I know this, Lol.


That type make sense to me, they are usually maxed at whatever tire they come with is rated at. Our Dodge Journey would go 118 easily where it hit the limiter. The Durango R/T we got next would also only run 118 lol. We replaced the Durango when it got worth what we paid for it and bought a grand Cherokee, I haven't top speed tested it yet but I am sure it is the same as the Durango and Journey due to tire ratings. I imagine most cars and SUVs today could run 140-150 but they save tons of money by only putting 118mph tires on them. There is plenty of people that don't need to have the ability to go that fast as well!


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: Bad340fish] #3046190
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Doesn't almost every car sold in USA have a speed limiter now?


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My 2001 ram van has a rev limiter, it will shut down-sputter at about 4500 so I guess that’s a speed limiter too

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The rev limiters like that are for freewheeling RPM limits. Like in neutral. In gear, they will rev to red line.


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: DaveRS23] #3046202
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Third generation Camaros (80's) had a governor on them. If I remember correctly it was just a snip of a single wire to the PCM to disable it.

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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: MarkZ] #3046208
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Buick called it speed minder.

Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: DaveRS23] #3046213
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
The rev limiters like that are for freewheeling RPM limits. Like in neutral. In gear, they will rev to red line.

Mine does it in gear

Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: cudaman1969] #3046256
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If your engine is limited to below it's red line, I will bet you that something is wrong. We have had a lot of those vans, in fact my son still has one, and they would rev to the red line when in gear. twocents


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The article isn't talking about a Top Speed limiter, but one that signals the driver whenever they exceed the posted limit on the road they're on. Just another step towards self-driving. If you've never driven a GM product with "Lane Keep Assist", it vibrates the seat bottom cushion on the side where you're close to the lane line and adds resistance to the steering in that direction. VERY weird the first time it activates on you... When I worked at TAC we called it Drunk Driver Assist...

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Data loggers; aka: black boxes, have been on cars in America for several years now.


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Originally Posted by 340727dart
Data loggers; aka: black boxes, have been on cars in America for several years now.


But haven't been mandatory on all cars.


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: nuthinbutmopar] #3046363
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Originally Posted by nuthinbutmopar
The article isn't talking about a Top Speed limiter, but one that signals the driver whenever they exceed the posted limit on the road they're on.


I felt that the headline was a little misleading too. But it was what it was and I posted it that way. I would support this kind of warning system if the driver had the option to toggle it off. But I won't hold my breath.


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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
If your engine is limited to below it's red line, I will bet you that something is wrong. We have had a lot of those vans, in fact my son still has one, and they would rev to the red line when in gear. twocents

What is your red line?

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I will try to remember to look tomorrow at my son's van. But I can tell you that it is above 4,500.


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Originally Posted by Sniper
What they need is a "get the F out of the left lane you Dbag" siren going off, especially 18 wheelers doing 55 in the left lane of an 80 mph limit highway pulling a rolling road block.

Ought to be open season on them.


You can thank emission laws for this. They can't accelerate because it might use to much fuel, and not burn off properly. But yes, get the F out of the left lane...


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Re: Mandatory speed limiters coming to Europe [Re: cudaman1969] #3046722
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by DaveRS23
If your engine is limited to below it's red line, I will bet you that something is wrong. We have had a lot of those vans, in fact my son still has one, and they would rev to the red line when in gear. twocents

What is your red line?


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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by DaveRS23
If your engine is limited to below it's red line, I will bet you that something is wrong. We have had a lot of those vans, in fact my son still has one, and they would rev to the red line when in gear. twocents

What is your red line?


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Well, I managed to blow past the Ram van part and jumped to minivans. Brain fade on my part. rolleyes

3.8 V-6 minivans, which is what I am taking about, rev to 6,000. The RPM range should have clued you that I was not talking about a V-8.


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