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MSD and stock wiring harness? UPDATE #304581 05/01/09 04:41 PM 05/01/09 04:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio C clyde OP enthusiast
clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	Msd 6al mallory distributor stock harness battery in trunk and master switch. Heres the problem, red wire from msd to red wire coming from steering column, car starts but wont shut off with key switch but will at master switch. So which wire do I hook it to? Any help will be appreciated, Thanks Randy Hats off to Healthservices! Hooked brown to blue and MSD and Viola! It now works like I intended it to. Thanks again Healthservices

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304582 05/01/09 05:37 PM 05/01/09 05:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	You must be on a power line and not an ignition on line? more info

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304583 05/01/09 05:38 PM 05/01/09 05:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	try it with key off and jump relay it will probably start!

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: Dodgem] #304584 05/01/09 05:41 PM 05/01/09 05:41 PM
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emarine01 master E Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc	Check the msd small red wire sounds like its hot all the time

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: emarine01] #304585 05/01/09 05:54 PM 05/01/09 05:54 PM
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clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	Yes small red wire is hot all the time. It is connected to the red wire coming out of column. From what I can tell from wiring diagrams is it should be on blue wire with tracer or brown wire or yellow wire all of which come out of column. If I jump to blue wire car will start but, only run if I hold starter engaged same with yellow wire. Brown wire and no start at all. Thx Randy

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304586 05/01/09 06:01 PM 05/01/09 06:01 PM
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emarine01 master E Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc	Just brake out a test light and find a keyed hot thats hot while its cranking and in the run position when you let off the starter & turns off with the key

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: emarine01] #304587 05/01/09 06:08 PM 05/01/09 06:08 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio C cgall top fuel
cgall top fuel C Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio	Run the wire to a "switched" terminal on your fuse block. Is it a stock fuse block or?

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304588 05/01/09 06:09 PM 05/01/09 06:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Jump the Brown wire and the dark blue/trc together and connect to your small red wire on the MSD Brown gives power only during crank . giving full 12 volts to coil dark blue/trc gives power only with the key on . It feeds the coil thru the resister. The MSD small red wire just needs this power lead as a signal wire to sower on the MSD, voltage is not a concern. Double check what I colored for you.

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304589 05/01/09 06:21 PM 05/01/09 06:21 PM
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clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	UHHH did I mention it's a 70 barracuda?

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: cgall] #304590 05/01/09 06:25 PM 05/01/09 06:25 PM
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clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	Stock fuse block and wheres yer oil pan?

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304591 05/01/09 06:27 PM 05/01/09 06:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	I'll check it if you like but it looks to be the same wires. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: HealthServices] #304592 05/01/09 06:30 PM 05/01/09 06:30 PM
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clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	I should get voltage at the brown wire right? Problem is there no voltage at said wire. Beginning to think ign switch is bad.

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304593 05/01/09 06:32 PM 05/01/09 06:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio C cgall top fuel
cgall top fuel C Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio	Oil pan is on bench, has 4 small cracks. I will bring it up if I ever get a spare hour or two, you weld and I'll solder wires!

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304594 05/01/09 06:38 PM 05/01/09 06:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: I should get voltage at the brown wire right? Problem is there no voltage at said wire. Beginning to think ign switch is bad. Brown hot only during cranking If it is cut make sure you are connecting to the wire leading to the ignition and not leading to the engine compartment. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: HealthServices] #304595 05/01/09 06:49 PM 05/01/09 06:49 PM
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clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	Quote: Quote: I should get voltage at the brown wire right? Problem is there no voltage at said wire. Beginning to think ign switch is bad. Brown hot only during cranking If it is cut make sure you are connecting to the wire leading to the ignition and not leading to the engine compartment. It could be my test light but I dont think I was getting voltage at brown while cranking but I will try again. Thanks for the help Greatly appreciated.

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: cgall] #304596 05/01/09 06:52 PM 05/01/09 06:52 PM
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clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	Quote: Oil pan is on bench, has 4 small cracks. I will bring it up if I ever get a spare hour or two, you weld and I'll solder wires! Lessee I solder pan, you weld wires or something like that

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304597 05/01/09 07:33 PM 05/01/09 07:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	oh and make sure you are not grabing the brown wire from the turn signal connector. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: HealthServices] #304598 05/01/09 07:41 PM 05/01/09 07:41 PM
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clyde OP enthusiast C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 256 S.W. Ohio	That fixed it. Thanks again. Randy

Re: MSD and stock wiring harness? [Re: clyde] #304599 05/01/09 07:46 PM 05/01/09 07:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

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