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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/13/22 02:17 PM
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The original SRP of the SX1980 in 1978 was $1295.... However note it was discontinued abruptly after being sued for fraudulent advertising for inflated published power output specs...  Pioneer claimed 270Wx2 but actual specs was 160Wx2... Just my $0.02... 
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
[Re: Sinitro]
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04/13/22 04:18 PM
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The original SRP of the SX1980 in 1978 was $1295.... However note it was discontinued abruptly after being sued for fraudulent advertising for inflated published power output specs... Pioneer claimed 270Wx2 but actual specs was 160Wx2... Just wondering where you saw the 160watt claim? AFAIK, the SX1980 was underrated, not over rated. Maybe they had some defective units? SX-1980 power
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/13/22 05:08 PM
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Awesome systems in here, guys. I love the wooden case on that 2270, and a 2600 is just incredible!
I have 2 systems right now. Living room system is a McIntosh MA252 amp, Technics SL-1200G, and some Pioneer HPM-100 speakers. The speakers sound decent but I think could either use a recap and crossover mods or outright replacement with something slightly more modern. I've been eyeing up a set of the new JBL L100 Classic reissues but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Also have a Bluesound Node 2i for streaming.
Upstairs system is my original piece of hifi gear, a Marantz 2270, a random Pioneer turntable with a Shure 97xE cartridge, and some EPI 100 speakers. If I upgrade the living room speakers the Pioneers will move upstairs to the bedroom, I really loved how they paired with the Marantz. I have a cheap bluetooth adapter for this one.
Also have a Bottlehead tube headphone amp I assembled a few years ago, have 2 different pairs of high impedance Beyerdynamic headphones I use with them.
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/13/22 05:19 PM
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Nope... The SX1980 failed the FTC preconditioning test of 1 hour of 1/3 power... Had inadequate heat-sinking and weak power supply, in fact today a couple of aftermarket guys sell a redesigned power supply. In 78, the FTC issued Cease & Desist order to Pioneer after running its own lab tests. The unit would measure 270Wx2 cold out-of-box but its power output would decrease significantly as the unit got hotter.. When Pioneer was served with the legal action, they abruptly discontinued the SX1980. Back in the late 70s there were multiple monster, high-powered stereo receivers from Technics, Sansui, Kenwood, Pioneer but the only brand marketing high-powered stereo receivers that passed the FTC tests were the Marantz receivers such as their 2385, 2500 and 2600.. Also the Marantz receivers were capable of driving 4 Ohm loads something that the most brands couldn't do. I know a little about this subject as I was the project engineer that did the SX1980 measurements for the FTC... Just my $0.02...
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/14/22 01:07 AM
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Here's the big dog in the basement. The literal elephant in the room....
Pioneer QX-9900 Quadraphonic Receiver
Pioneer PL-530 Direct Drive Turntable
Pioneer SG-9500 "The Twins" 10-band Equalizers
Akai CR-80D-SS Quadraphonic 8-track tape player
Akai 280D-SS Quadraphonic Reel to Reel player (with remote!)
Akai GXC-65-D "Invert-O-Matic" Stereo cassette player
TEAC AN-300 4-Channel Dolby Encoder/Decoder
Technics SH-3433 4-Channel Audio Oscilloscope
Technics SH500 CD-4 Demodulator
Tate/Fosgate 101A SQ 4-Channel Decoder
.... and the speakers are just four Sears Professional series that are.... probably among the BEST sounding, consumer-grade speakers I've ever encountered. I've actually got six of them, but two are out in the garage awaiting refurb.
And yes, it all works and it's amazing. The future passed us by in 1974 with 4-channel surround sound audio. I've got well in excess of 600 Quadraphonic 8-tracks, nearing 100 CD-4 Quadradiscs, two-dozen QS LP's and about a dozen SQ LP's - and I hate SQ.
Plus, those of us in the community like to open our collections up and trade what we do have. If what we want isn't available on SACD, we generally have a conversion from reel, 8-track or CD-4 floating around UNTIL we get a legit re-release. The Quad community is staunchly in support or modern formats so if it's available commercially; we HALT all closed-door trading of that title.
Plus, I can also play a few modern formats: SACD, DVD A/V, and the older stuff too like DTS and DOLBY/AC3.
I think I'm getting off the boat as Blu-Ray audio doesn't seem to be getting much action. This new Sony 360RA seems to be bearing fruit since - at it's core, 4 of it's 10 channels seem to be original QUAD recordings.... and Sony has really opened up the vaults lately gracing us with albums that were mixed to Quad back in the 1970's, but left unreleased. Some of the gems include an Elvis album even the Elvis phreaks weren't aware was done to Quad... some Blood, Sweat & Tears, a previously unknown Waylon Jennings title, Harry Belafonte, Dolly Parton, Tanya Tucker.... and it's only the beginning.
 
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
[Re: That AMC Guy]
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04/14/22 01:42 PM
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Yup... The Sansui QS matrix system was the best... It also did surprisingly well for traditional stereo sources for creating a quad surround output be it tape, CD or vinyl.. Just my $0.02...
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/14/22 02:10 PM
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Some great stereo systems…awesome stuff. My record player has a shure 3 cartridge, it’s a nice little direct drive unit. The tube amp needs a equalizer to tune it to different music, I’m looking at a Shiit Loki or possibly an old school slider style unit. The 160 wpc you guys were talking about is a LOT!! Like over 200 wpc is amazing and probably not useable in my small space…I have only used half the power of my 2270…35 watts or so.  I love the old Sansui equipment too…cool looking and sounds great. The new Yamaha stuff is awesome…and powerful. Thanks for sharing your systems. Here's the big dog in the basement. The literal elephant in the room....
Pioneer QX-9900 Quadraphonic Receiver
Pioneer PL-530 Direct Drive Turntable
Pioneer SG-9500 "The Twins" 10-band Equalizers
Akai CR-80D-SS Quadraphonic 8-track tape player
Akai 280D-SS Quadraphonic Reel to Reel player (with remote!)
Akai GXC-65-D "Invert-O-Matic" Stereo cassette player
TEAC AN-300 4-Channel Dolby Encoder/Decoder
Technics SH-3433 4-Channel Audio Oscilloscope
Technics SH500 CD-4 Demodulator
Tate/Fosgate 101A SQ 4-Channel Decoder
.... and the speakers are just four Sears Professional series that are.... probably among the BEST sounding, consumer-grade speakers I've ever encountered. I've actually got six of them, but two are out in the garage awaiting refurb.
And yes, it all works and it's amazing. The future passed us by in 1974 with 4-channel surround sound audio. I've got well in excess of 600 Quadraphonic 8-tracks, nearing 100 CD-4 Quadradiscs, two-dozen QS LP's and about a dozen SQ LP's - and I hate SQ.
Plus, those of us in the community like to open our collections up and trade what we do have. If what we want isn't available on SACD, we generally have a conversion from reel, 8-track or CD-4 floating around UNTIL we get a legit re-release. The Quad community is staunchly in support or modern formats so if it's available commercially; we HALT all closed-door trading of that title.
Plus, I can also play a few modern formats: SACD, DVD A/V, and the older stuff too like DTS and DOLBY/AC3.
I think I'm getting off the boat as Blu-Ray audio doesn't seem to be getting much action. This new Sony 360RA seems to be bearing fruit since - at it's core, 4 of it's 10 channels seem to be original QUAD recordings.... and Sony has really opened up the vaults lately gracing us with albums that were mixed to Quad back in the 1970's, but left unreleased. Some of the gems include an Elvis album even the Elvis phreaks weren't aware was done to Quad... some Blood, Sweat & Tears, a previously unknown Waylon Jennings title, Harry Belafonte, Dolly Parton, Tanya Tucker.... and it's only the beginning.
Holy majoly!!! That is AWESOME!! I’m looking to find a smaller quadraphonic receiver as I have four Advent Laureate speakers that are in great shape and sound pretty good. The imaging isn’t as good as the Klipsch Forte but they would be great for a second quad system. I’m envious…two equalizers?!? Each channel has its own…awesome stuff.
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/14/22 05:51 PM
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Holy majoly!!! That is AWESOME!! I’m looking to find a smaller quadraphonic receiver as I have four Advent Laureate speakers that are in great shape and sound pretty good. The imaging isn’t as good as the Klipsch Forte but they would be great for a second quad system. I’m envious…two equalizers?!? Each channel has its own…awesome stuff.
Thing is, I've been into this stuff since it was practically worthless. People would GIVE me many of the items, or $50 was all they'd cost me. I look at prices now (like, what people ask today for ONE equalizer!! ) and it makes me glad I'm not trying to start out today. The other fun part is that the Gremlin & the Javelin also have Quad tape decks in them. So my hobbies kinda blur together. The Hornet might get another Quad deck - we'll see. The Tiburon has a Sony SACD 4.0 system which is AWESOME. Even the truck might go Quad. Currently it's a factory AM/FM/Stereo 8-track. Was going to put an underdash CB in. BUT.... a buddy is contemplating giving me his factory AM/FM/CB... in which case, I'll put a little underdash Quad deck in and even the truck will be 4-channel. Does that make it a QUAD CAB??  Wish you were closer. I have a Sansui QRX-7001 that I've freshened up (cleaned the pots, replaced the lightbulbs) and really have no use for. Could really use the money, too. But would prefer NOT to ship it as it's a bit of a monster and shipping would probably be more than what I'd be asking for the receiver. If you were really serious, I've even got a Technics 4-channel 8-track deck I hardly use and just in general a lot of stuff I would much rather turn into cash-money. Looks like I may have a new job starting next week. Been more than 2 years on my butt.... I guess it's time to get back to work.
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/14/22 06:06 PM
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Yup... The Sansui QS matrix system was the best... It also did surprisingly well for traditional stereo sources for creating a quad surround output be it tape, CD or vinyl.. Just my $0.02... I prefer the QS system to SQ. Pretty much all QS decoders are built the same because of the way Sansui held the patent. They all work, but have limitations. But at least you can HEAR a difference when you hit that QS button. Too bad there's maybe less than 50 total LP's in QS. CD-4 is my favorite. After spending $400 on a Linear Contact stylus and cartridge that can handle 45,000hz.... and aligning everything. Geodiscs are WORTH the money. Now, my CD-4 system is super reliable. Love some of the Japan-only discs from the Stylistics or Hot Butter. Heck, even Van McCoy had a release in Japan. Indeed... I can do the Hustle in Quad. SQ.... ugh. I have arguably the best SQ decoder they ever made and I'm still not convinced. Sure, it can make something spin around the room but when the recording gets really "busy", the whole soundstage collapses. I prefer to stick to CD-4, tapes or SACD. I'm sure when I go for the big dirt nap it's either all going into the dump or a museum.
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Re: What home audio setup are you running?
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04/14/22 06:27 PM
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The HK 330 was an incredible stereo receiver for the price. Good FM tuner and very capable amplifier, it was actually built by Onkyo/Integra. Just my $0.02...
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