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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/20/22 11:28 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I guess I don’t have the three phase figured out, then. The guy that gave me the info on the VFD has one on shelf sander that he made. It works great on his but he uses it only as a speed control on his sander. I have two motors. One is on the spindle and one on the table feed. So I guess I can’t use the VFD according to feets. I’ll check American rotary phase converter. My spindle motor is only 1.5 up. As far as the collet. I have one tool that came with it. It is a drill Chuck. I’ll post a picture of it and the spindle. It looks to be just a 1/2” straight shaft. I’m out of my element her for sure. Any help is appreciated. VFD's can be considered one per motor. Your spindle speed is separate from your table feed so they do not need to be synchronized. You would need one VFD for the spindle speed and one VFD for the table feed.
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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/22/22 06:14 AM
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Ok, seems I’m getting somewhere. I removed the nut from the spindle and out dropped a 9/16 “ collet. So looks to me like I don’t need to do anything except buy enough collets to fit the end mills that I buy. I assume the 30 B & S taper is what the universal fixture has so I don’t need B & S taper end mills, correct. I looked on eBay and found them for about 15 each or less. So , where is the best place to buy these, what sizes should I get and where is the best place to get get good end mills that aren’t china junk? Thanks for all the help guys.
Oh. I can’t tell for sure but I bet the motor for the table feed is 3 phase as well. The ID plate has been painted over but I found one spot I could read and it said the motor was 220/440 volt. So that means I’d have to have two VFDs to make it work.
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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/22/22 09:09 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I guess I don’t have the three phase figured out, then. The guy that gave me the info on the VFD has one on shelf sander that he made. It works great on his but he uses it only as a speed control on his sander. I have two motors. One is on the spindle and one on the table feed. So I guess I can’t use the VFD according to feets. I’ll check American rotary phase converter. My spindle motor is only 1.5 up. As far as the collet. I have one tool that came with it. It is a drill Chuck. I’ll post a picture of it and the spindle. It looks to be just a 1/2” straight shaft. I’m out of my element her for sure. Any help is appreciated. VFD's can be considered one per motor. Your spindle speed is separate from your table feed so they do not need to be synchronized. You would need one VFD for the spindle speed and one VFD for the table feed. If his table feed is 110/120Volt then no need for 2 VFD's....wire the table feed to a 110/120 outlet
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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/23/22 09:39 AM
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The table feed motor plate says 220/440 but I can’t find the phase because it’s painted over. I’m assuming that it’s 3 phase. See how many line feed wires go into the motor, 2 = single, 3 = 3 phase. Not counting the ground
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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/23/22 03:14 PM
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That's a Universal Z collet. I use them in my mill.
Pick up an organizer from Horror Freight and fill it with Ebay collects. If they're clean and free from burs you're good to go. Those things are available in all kinds of common and weirdo sizes.
Again, I'd skip the VFD and go with a rotary converter. It's a big quality of life improvement.
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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/23/22 08:22 PM
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The table feed motor plate says 220/440 but I can’t find the phase because it’s painted over. I’m assuming that it’s 3 phase. See how many line feed wires go into the motor, 2 = single, 3 = 3 phase. Not counting the ground That is going to be my net step. I got sidetracked today.
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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/28/22 02:38 PM
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I’ve got an old Index verticals mill that I need to get up and running. I think I’ve got the three phase conversion figured out bu all I have for tooling it one drill chuck. I was told that it was older brown and sharp taper. Should I look for brown and sharp tooling, buy adapters or find a company that can convert my spindle to the more common R8 taper? Check with H & W Machinery in Fort Wayne Indiana. They mention converting obsolete spindle tapers into the common R8. https://machinerypartsdepot.com/
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Re: Old Index vertical mill parts
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03/28/22 07:03 PM
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There are tons of these older parts on Facebook marketplace at almost giveaway prices.
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