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Tranzact of Indy Valvebody Issue #2926909
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Does anyone know if Tranzact of Indy is still open?

I have what I suspect is a valvebody issue that I was hoping I might get some tech help with.


Very strange... but when you fire the car up and put it into gear, it just rev's like it's in neutral. Then if you hold it at 2,000 RPM or so for say 5 seconds it will start to move. It almost feels like you're letting the clutch out.

I took the trans apart yesterday and everything looks FLAWLESS inside. Not one hint of any gear slipping anywhere.


I can send the converter back to be looked at too, but thought I'd start with the valvebody.

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Are you starting the engine with the shifter in Park or Neutral?


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Both... lol It's a pushbutton.

I should note a couple more things also.

1) It never did this before. This is a new issue that shown up in the last year or so.

2) The last time the car was raced was 2 years ago, and ran 6.22 in great air with a 1.37 60ft. This past weekend, the car went 6.30, but with only a 1.51 60ft. Still had great MPH though, which made me thing the stator might be broken. But PTC told me it should be a spragless converter, so I'm waiting for a call back from them to confirm based on the serial number I have now.


Not sure how that might effect this issue where it feels like it is slipping after start up.


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Check both band adjustments twocents
Take a hard look at the front drum also scope


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Good advice Cab. I did that already... both are good, and there isn't a sign of hot spot anywhere on the drums, bands, steels, or clutches.


I talked to PTC. They think it is probably a hung Torque Converter Control Valve in the valve body. I'll get that apart next and start looking at it.


The other symptom that I talked to PTC about, was that on the 2nd pass, the shift light came on right away off the transbrake release. They said that's a symptom of the converter not being full also.

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Should’ve checked line pressure first, that would pointed u in the right direction. 2cts.

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Originally Posted by dizuster
Good advice Cab. I did that already... both are good, and there isn't a sign of hot spot anywhere on the drums, bands, steels, or clutches.


I talked to PTC. They think it is probably a hung Torque Converter Control Valve in the valve body. I'll get that apart next and start looking at it.


The other symptom that I talked to PTC about, was that on the 2nd pass, the shift light came on right away off the transbrake release. They said that's a symptom of the converter not being full also.


With those symptoms the first thing to do is see where the fluid level is before starting it.
If very high, above your full/hot mark, then start the engine and once you get a good engagement check the fluid again.

If lower, then the converter drained down.

Two things usually cause that. A stuck/sticky TCCV or excessive pump rotor face clearance. If a recent occurrence for you then likely not the pump clearance.
Age old issue.

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Originally Posted by Transman
Originally Posted by dizuster
Good advice Cab. I did that already... both are good, and there isn't a sign of hot spot anywhere on the drums, bands, steels, or clutches.


I talked to PTC. They think it is probably a hung Torque Converter Control Valve in the valve body. I'll get that apart next and start looking at it.


The other symptom that I talked to PTC about, was that on the 2nd pass, the shift light came on right away off the transbrake release. They said that's a symptom of the converter not being full also.


With those symptoms the first thing to do is see where the fluid level is before starting it.
If very high, above your full/hot mark, then start the engine and once you get a good engagement check the fluid again.

If lower, then the converter drained down.

Two things usually cause that. A stuck/sticky TCCV or excessive pump rotor face clearance. If a recent occurrence for you then likely not the pump clearance.
Age old issue.

I had a sb pushbutton that did this if it sat for more than a few hours. Was told it was common . Just converter draining back


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This isnt normal converter drain back. When he pulls away in the pits it sounds like its leaving in high gear. And that's after it's been running a while. Not saying the converters full. That could be the issue. But its run plenty long enough for a normal fill.
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There was a TSB, for the reaction shaft turning in the support. One of the symptoms was no forward engagement, due to misalignment of the feed holes. If you can compare the reaction shaft support to another, just to rule it out. I remember that fully blocked feed holes would slip the rear clutch dramatically. Doesn’t sound like you’re seeing it, though.

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I can't help but this is why I stay here.

Good to see IDEAS THAT CAN HELP

Re: Tranzact of Indy Valvebody Issue [Re: rickraw] #2927176
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Originally Posted by rickraw
Should’ve checked line pressure first, that would pointed u in the right direction. 2cts.


That was the FIRST thing I said to DVW when I called him after I took it apart and didn't find any issues!!!!



Thanks to all of those who've given ideas. We have family plans this weekend, but I'll report back next week after some further investigation!

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Originally Posted by dizuster
Originally Posted by rickraw
Should’ve checked line pressure first, that would pointed u in the right direction. 2cts.


That was the FIRST thing I said to DVW when I called him after I took it apart and didn't find any issues!!!!



Thanks to all of those who've given ideas. We have family plans this weekend, but I'll report back next week after some further investigation!


Line pressure is unaffected by converter fill. Doug said it moved under it’s own power and you said no burnt clutches.

Low line would have wounded clutches.

Look at the valve body - corner by the spring retainer bracket. There is a small long skinny spring next to the reg valve.
That’s the TCCV and spring. That’s your likely culprit. That valve should be all the way in it’s bore. And it should fall out once that bracket is removed.

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Originally Posted by FastmOp
I can't help but this is why I stay here.

Good to see IDEAS THAT CAN HELP



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Transman for the win... TCCV was stuck (I had to bang the side of the valve body a bunch of times to get it to finally come out).

Not sure why, but it is very corroded!!! I'll get it cleaned up and put back together. Thanks for the help Lou!


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Hello Moparts forum.
I wish I did not have to post this. However, Tranzact of Indy, Race Parts Wholesale Indianapolis, Joe Chrisman is not responding to any of my messages after I sent him a deposit for one of his Ultraflite transmissions on May 10th, 2021. We spoke on the phone several times, however over the last four months he will not answer the phone at (317) 846-4933, emails to tranzactracing@aol.com, or certified letters sent to his address 503 North Arthur Drive, Indianapolis, IN 46280. Does someone know how to contact him? I hope he is not trying to keep this money without doing his job. I also do not want anyone in this community to have this happen.
Thanks for any help!I

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You have at least 25 posts on this subject. You should be contacting the Better Business Bureau,your credit card company or filing a claim in small claims court. Good luck as I hate to see somebody ripped off on race parts.


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I’m just surprised that nobody seems to know anything about him?

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Originally Posted by J_BODY
I’m just surprised that nobody seems to know anything about him?


Maybe call TCI and see if they are back ordered on the Brake he makes for them.

If so maybe he is out of commission.

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Originally Posted by Transman
Originally Posted by J_BODY
I’m just surprised that nobody seems to know anything about him?


Maybe call TCI and see if they are back ordered on the Brake he makes for them.

If so maybe he is out of commission.




That doesn’t excuse him from not picking up the phone


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