Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Jumped chain is pretty common for a high-mile 360LA.
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Sounds to me like your carb is flooding, most likely caused by dirt in the needle seat or stuck float or too much fuel pressure. You have probably gas fouled your spark plugs by now. Rebuild the carb, put in new spark plugs and you'll most likely be ready to go.
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Had a buddy loose a driveshaft before and it shook so bad the advance plate in the distributor came loose and it done the exact same thing. Gus
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Had a buddy loose a driveshaft before and it shook so bad the advance plate in the distributor came loose and it done the exact same thing. Gus It was the trailing end of the driveshaft and it just made clanking sounds and dragged a little ways... I was doing about 75mph when it happened! Had it been the front end I might have flipped it!
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Sounds to me like your carb is flooding, most likely caused by dirt in the needle seat or stuck float or too much fuel pressure. You have probably gas fouled your spark plugs by now. Rebuild the carb, put in new spark plugs and you'll most likely be ready to go. The carb has always been an issue and was planning a rebuild anyway. I can't afford a new one at the moment so I'm going to rebuild and hope it works. I ordered a Carter rebuild kit... The carb had fuel seeping out of almost every gasket even after tightening all the screws... There is still a good amount of fuel that squirts out though...
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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it is easy to jump to conclusions when multiple things appear to fail all at once. just because they look related doesn't mean they are. And somethings just happen to fail.
Fix the carb first. Then see how it acts. in the meantime you can verify tdc if you didn't already. if the carb went bad like it sounds like, you are just hurting yourself trying to trouble shoot with a broken part. Already have it off the engine and ordered a Carter rebuild kit... I hope it's a good kit, I had a choice and decided to go with the Carter... It has positive pressure down the intake if that helps eliminate a symptom...?
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Hold you hand over the intake manifold where the carb mounts and have a helper crank the engine. There should only be suction during cranking. If you feel air puffing up through the manifold the timing chain jumped or broke.
Disable the ignition and plug or disconnect the fuel line going to the carb so fuel doesn't squirt out. I pinched the line and did the test directly over the intake port(carb off). 100% positive suction! So that eliminates the chain correct?
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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I ordered a Carter rebuild kit...
Thought you said you had a Holley? 2bbl 2210/2245 Holley carb.
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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I ordered a Carter rebuild kit...
Thought you said you had a Holley? 2bbl 2210/2245 Holley carb. That's right... apparently Carter makes a rebuild kit for the Holley and so do a handful of other names...
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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After you fix the carb, you will probably need to replace the gas soaked spark plugs, and change the oil and the oil filter. Sounds to me like the float stuck open in the carb and flooded everything with raw gas. The plugs are likely not any good anymore, and gas has been dumped into the cylinders and has probably contaminated the oil as well. Since you have been cranking the motor over, you have pumped the gas contaminated oil into the oil filter and it now has also been contaminated.
Your repair order should be: 1) Rebuild the carb. 2) Remove the spark plugs and crank over the motor for a few seconds with no plugs in it. 3) Shoot a couple of pumps of oil into each cylinder and spin the motor over a couple more seconds. 4) Replace the spark plugs. be sure the plug wires are correctly installed. 5) Change the oil and the oil filter. 6) Start the motor and watch for oil pressure. 7) Adjust the carb. Gene This is all maintenance that was due anyway... It has been about 5-6 years since I bought the van and when I did I replaced the head gasket and "rebuilt" the carb but what I really did was clean it well and change the gaskets. I have always had a problem adjusting one of the needles but always got it to run well. I also have always had a stalling issue when giving the pedal a quick press when in reverse, maybe a carb issue? Who knows but either way that list looks good! Thanks. The good thing is I already have a box of oil and a filter. The rebuild kit is on it's way and now to pick some plugs up at AutoZone. Any recommendations on plugs? It's a stock vehicle pretty much...
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Interesting, since Carter went out of business in the 80's. Wonder who resurrected the name. They are alive and well at https://carterengineered.comSeem to be focusing on fuel and water pumps. Iast I knew all was still manufactured in the US the following might be an answer to your question technicalhotline@firstbrandsgroup.com
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Re: Engine not starting, carb backfires!
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Interesting, since Carter went out of business in the 80's. Wonder who resurrected the name. Maybe it's old stock not sure... It's off eBay... I had a choice between Carter, Tomco and Pronto... I read Tomco has some fitment issues but couldn't find anything in Pronto... I read that Carter made some good stuff and had been around for a while so I decided to try them. The last kit I bought was a Walker and only used the gaskets... I was really green when I did the first "rebuild"...
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