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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: FiveWoods]
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Very easy... Cast have a narrow parting line and forged have a wide one, on the crank throws. Basically like this pic. Cast on the left. 
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: FiveWoods]
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Tap it with a hammer, if it rings, its forged...if doesn't (just goes clunk), its cast.
67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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drop it from about 2 stories high onto some hard surface like a concrete floor.
If it shatters its cast. if it just bends or gets dented its forged.
 
In all honesty, I think the forged one will dent the concrete. 
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: FiveWoods]
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!! 
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: dOc !]
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
Didn't they have a cast crank for the 383 2bbl ? 
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
Didn't they have a cast crank for the 383 2bbl ?
??? ... that would be a new-one on me !!
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: dOc !]
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
Didn't they have a cast crank for the 383 2bbl ?
??? ... that would be a new-one on me !!
I just had some home made beer, so don't quote me..
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: OzHemi]
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I just had some home made beer, so don't quote me..
So how many "40s" did you have ? .. 
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
Didn't they have a cast crank for the 383 2bbl ?
Get the scoop in the mail.
71 383 2 bbls were cast crank. I owned one last year. It was the only big block I've seen that I thought was completely useless.
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: dave571]
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
Didn't they have a cast crank for the 383 2bbl ?
Get the scoop in the mail.
71 383 2 bbls were cast crank. I owned one last year. It was the only big block I've seen that I thought was completely useless.
Who gets the scoop...you or me ? 
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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71 383 2 bbls were cast crank. I owned one last year. It was the only big block I've seen that I thought was completely useless.
Come on guys ... let us see some supporting documentation !!
And if this can not be supplied ... what do I GET for winning the bet ? ...
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: dOc !]
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what do I GET for winning the bet ?
Nothing 
(well, aside from a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing you were correct)
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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Or the DC manual with flywheel weighting for a cast crank 383...  Cast crank 2bbl 383 w/auto trans replacement crankshaft Part number 3462922 From the 70-71 parts book. Can I get a scoop for the info?
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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Who has a 71 parts manual cause Doc needs to box up Jeff's scoop.... 
From the 1971 parts catalog..
Part # 3462922 383 with 2bbl carb and cast crank.
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: RobX4406]
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Or the DC manual with flywheel weighting for a cast crank 383...
Cast crank 2bbl 383 replacement crankshaft
Part number 3462922
From the 70-71 parts book.
Can I get a scoop for the info?
Yeah .....and I saw a flying-saucer last nite !
POST a pic of that parts page or an "official" link .....
And if I am UNcorrect .... you guys can "fight-over" who ever gets the scoop !
And I would STILL like to hear the logic of offering two diff low-po motors with two diff cranks ... 
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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Or the DC manual with flywheel weighting for a cast crank 383...
Cast crank 2bbl 383 replacement crankshaft
Part number 3462922
From the 70-71 parts book.
Can I get a scoop for the info?
Yeah .....and I saw a flying-saucer last nite !
POST a pic of that parts page or an "official" link .....
And if I am UNcorrect .... you guys can "fight-over" who ever gets the scoop !
And I would STILL like to hear the logic of offering two diff low-po motors with two diff cranks ...
Maybe the flying saucer hit you in the head or they stole your... nevermind...
Jeff posted the page as I can't export it from the program I use to view it.
checkmate!
Logic? 383 lo po and the 400 use the same crank, no?
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: Dodgem]
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The logic may go something like this, they knew they were switching to all cast cranks but they had to use up their remaining forged cranks so they just divided them up and said "cast crank, 2bbls forged cranks 4bbls".
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: 6PakBee]
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Fiberglass scoop?
Got no use for it, but send it anyways..
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: dOc !]
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Oh-tay Ozzie .... you know my situation ... you send me the one that you have ...and I will send you TWO BACK ! ...
Ya ?
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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The logic may go something like this, they knew they were switching to all cast cranks but they had to use up their remaining forged cranks so they just divided them up and said "cast crank, 2bbls forged cranks 4bbls".
B U T ... they kept using the forged cranks in the 400 for a long time past when the 383 was dropped.
OK ...you guys with all the lists and data ....
what was the OEM weight diff between a 383 and 400 piston? ... I am thinking that back-then there was little to no weight-diff between the two pistons. T H E N ... why not use-up those forged 383 cranks in the 400's ?
Whatcha' wanna BET that they used them up that way ? .... (or should have!)
NO SCOOP this time !
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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NO SCOOP this time !
I guess the posted parts info, and first hand witness accounts aren't enough for this guy. 
In all honesty, I had never seen one till last year myself. BUT they are real.
As for the logic...since when does logic have anything to do with what the big 3 do? 
Sorry you found out you were wrong
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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NO SCOOP this time !
I guess the posted parts info, and first hand witness accounts aren't enough for this guy.
Hey HEY .. I said NO SCOOP on my 2nd "bet" !
What Ozzie posted is good-enough-furr-me.
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: dOc !]
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NO SCOOP this time !
I guess the posted parts info, and first hand witness accounts aren't enough for this guy.
Hey HEY .. I said NO SCOOP on my 2nd "bet" !
What Ozzie posted is good-enough-furr-me.
Cool... I will go out front and wait by my mail box.
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
You LOSE, is shipping included ?
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Re: Forged or Cast?
[Re: OzHemi]
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383 (Cast) 69-71 2bbl
400 (Cast) 71-78 (Car), 73-79 (Truck)
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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Doc the backpeddler, what a scam.
Backpeddler ? ...scam ?? ... how do you figure that ?? ....... Jerk.
I am honoring that "bet" ... even though there was no potential "compensation" for me had I won.
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
You LOSE, is shipping included ?
Yes I did "LOSE" .... and I shoulda' BET you on that 727 clutch aligning tool !!
Shipping charges ? ... NOT !!!
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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3462923
383 (Cast) 69-71 2bbl
400 (Cast) 71-78 (Car), 73-79 (Truck)
1969 ?
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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I have two big blocks cranks in my possession, both for a 383. How can I tell if either or neither is a forged and not a cast crank?
TWO 383 cranks ? .. they are both FORGED !
They never made a cast-crank for a 383 !!
I would BET a fiberglass scoop ON THAT !!!
You LOSE, is shipping included ?
Yes I did "LOSE" .... and I shoulda' BET you on that 727 clutch aligning tool !!
Shipping charges ? ... NOT !!!
I'm not going to WRECK a perfectly GOOD trans part because you are too   to think OUTSIDE the box .
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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I'm not going to WRECK a perfectly GOOD trans part because you are too to think OUTSIDE the box .
Yea ...YOU ....outside the box ? ... aligning the little clutch tags with a small screwdriver ??
...is thinking OUTSIDE the box ? ....WHO is ... ?? ....
And to "wreck" a perfectly good part ... from a junk-yard parts-trans that you will never use for anything else ....
You give double - DUH new meaning !
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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I want to apologize the OP of this thread for this going off topic because Dr. D can't control his keyboard diarrhea
THIS ....from the guy who is famous for invading a topic with HIS keyboard rants and tactics. And he does it HERE ....for all to see.
HE gives the words "keyboard diarrhea" .... NEW MEANING. 
Back under your rock ...John-double-DUH.
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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Re: Forged or Cast?
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You backed out of your original bet, seems like a scam to me. One shouldn't make claims, backing them up with an offer if one is not willing to fulfill the offer.
You got called out, and to save face you are fulfilling the offer. Wonderful you. I'll retract my statement if you apologize here to the winner, and stop whining because you don't know everything.
Another Keyboard-Commmando !
WHERE did I back-off of this "bet"? ... I simply asked for proof that this was not simply hear-say. Ozzie supplied this .... THERE was no backing-off ... ever.
And AGAIN .... one could argue that there was no "official" bet since there was nothing put-up by the other side(had I been correct) .... but I will not go-there.
I will NOT apologize because there is reason to do so. I will honor my side of this one-sided wager.
But a retraction from YOU is in-order.
Me know everything ? ... I am on-here all the time asking questions ..... so THIS statement from you is pure BS.
So ...an apology from you is in-order.
 ....Ozzie ... would you like so caramel corn ?
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  I must say he uses that "Outside the box" a little to often! Can anyone send him a Chevy forum address so he cant rant about his awesome small block Chevy too????? 
M W ....under-his-rock would be a more appropriate statement ...
I come on here to exchange info and chat about this or that. But this-guy ? .. what he mostly does is ....
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...and gets "egg" all over his face ... when he trys to smear me. A N D it is happening toooooo ...when he goes after others !!
GOOD for them !
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