I am going to say the switchover is going to be a learning experience for all and they will likely learn from each others mistakes, nothing new or brand related IMO
a question - in our cars, we have an alternator that keeps our battery charged - why can't they rig up something similar to continually charge the batteries of an elec vehicle.??
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: massdaytona]
#2944280 07/17/2101:19 PM07/17/2101:19 PM
Hey, just wait until the grids can't keep up with all this green magic. Then, not only are our tax dollars supporting this BS, but our power will be cut as well.
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: topside]
#2944298 07/17/2102:18 PM07/17/2102:18 PM
Hey, just wait until the grids can't keep up with all this green magic. Then, not only are our tax dollars supporting this BS, but our power will be cut as well.
I've said this from the get-go. I guess it depends on how much of a draw they command. Our grid is weakened from our coal-fired generation being slowly diminished. (this was your base power source). Not sure how much gas powered plants can replace it, and we all know if it's raining and/or the wind's not blowing...............
Hey, just wait until the grids can't keep up with all this green magic. Then, not only are our tax dollars supporting this BS, but our power will be cut as well.
Typical of government they have the "we'll cross that bridge when we come to it" kind of mindset.
Facts are stubborn things.
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: DaveRS23]
#2944312 07/17/2103:15 PM07/17/2103:15 PM
Too much regen is a simple SW fix. The SW engineers just didn't think of that failure mode when they coded the regen function. Looks like the reliability guys also failed to fully test that function. Typical new platform bugs.
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: massdaytona]
#2944313 07/17/2103:16 PM07/17/2103:16 PM
a question - in our cars, we have an alternator that keeps our battery charged - why can't they rig up something similar to continually charge the batteries of an elec vehicle.??
Perpetual motion machine! Better go file a patent for it, you'll be rich.
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: AndyF]
#2944317 07/17/2103:51 PM07/17/2103:51 PM
a question - in our cars, we have an alternator that keeps our battery charged - why can't they rig up something similar to continually charge the batteries of an elec vehicle.??
Perpetual motion machine! Better go file a patent for it, you'll be rich.
Why not just toss a small honda generator in the trunk? It could kick in when the battery gets down to something like 25% and charge some while driving either to just extend your range a little or fully charge when the grid can't keep up... some are very quiet, just rout the exhaust out the back somewhere, give it a fresh air duct for cooling and there you go. If the manufacturer wanted to incorporate one they could make it run at a fixed RPM and load so they can design it to be very efficient
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: HotRodDave]
#2944335 07/17/2104:30 PM07/17/2104:30 PM
The problem isn't that the cars are running out of juice because there isn't enough potentially available - it's that the un(der)controlled regenerative braking can create so much battery charging that the batteries get too hot and cannot be recharged and conk out. This will be a remote software fix and should be done soon. Clearly, the bench and real-world testing did not cover this scenario. We learn as we go.
Trying to enjoy life!
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: HotRodDave]
#2944336 07/17/2104:31 PM07/17/2104:31 PM
a question - in our cars, we have an alternator that keeps our battery charged - why can't they rig up something similar to continually charge the batteries of an elec vehicle.??
Perpetual motion machine! Better go file a patent for it, you'll be rich.
Why not just toss a small honda generator in the trunk? It could kick in when the battery gets down to something like 25% and charge some while driving either to just extend your range a little or fully charge when the grid can't keep up... some are very quiet, just rout the exhaust out the back somewhere, give it a fresh air duct for cooling and there you go. If the manufacturer wanted to incorporate one they could make it run at a fixed RPM and load so they can design it to be very efficient
Isn't that the original Chevy Volt concept?
Trying to enjoy life!
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: calmopar]
#2944341 07/17/2104:44 PM07/17/2104:44 PM
The problem isn't that the cars are running out of juice because there isn't enough potentially available - it's that the un(der)controlled regenerative braking can create so much battery charging that the batteries get too hot and cannot be recharged and conk out. This will be a remote software fix and should be done soon. Clearly, the bench and real-world testing did not cover this scenario. We learn as we go.
Are you suggesting the Moparts cognoscenti are missing the mark?
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: calmopar]
#2944355 07/17/2105:44 PM07/17/2105:44 PM
a question - in our cars, we have an alternator that keeps our battery charged - why can't they rig up something similar to continually charge the batteries of an elec vehicle.??
Perpetual motion machine! Better go file a patent for it, you'll be rich.
Why not just toss a small honda generator in the trunk? It could kick in when the battery gets down to something like 25% and charge some while driving either to just extend your range a little or fully charge when the grid can't keep up... some are very quiet, just rout the exhaust out the back somewhere, give it a fresh air duct for cooling and there you go. If the manufacturer wanted to incorporate one they could make it run at a fixed RPM and load so they can design it to be very efficient
Isn't that the original Chevy Volt concept?
This is correct ---- the Chevy Volt utilized a small ICE power plant to assist in charging the battery pack. This seemed to work quite well and helped with alleviating range anxiety in the early Volts. The costs associated with this approach are considerably higher than the more simplified standard EV.
I knew an early Volt owner who commuted about 45 miles round trip M-F. He showed me records of his gasoline usage for the ICE assist for a year. It was almost nothing spent on gasoline....
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Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: AndyF]
#2944416 07/17/2110:13 PM07/17/2110:13 PM
Too much regen is a simple SW fix. The SW engineers just didn't think of that failure mode when they coded the regen function. Looks like the reliability guys also failed to fully test that function. Typical new platform bugs.
It seems that the fix is so simple that it is only going to take Ford 3 months to do it.
"Annie Sønsteby, Ford Norway information director, says the Mustang Mach-E braking issues can be handled with an over-the-air fix. Unfortunately, with Ford, that means you still have to take it into a dealership to get it. So, maybe Ford should just call it a “software update at the dealer” update instead. The good news is that the over-the-air updates will be starting around October 2021. So it will be happening, just not now. "
Master, again and still
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: HotRodDave]
#2944419 07/17/2110:21 PM07/17/2110:21 PM
Haven't trains been running on electric motors charged by diesel engines for multiple decades? If this is the case, why does none of these companies realize a diesel engine can be smaller than a gas engine and be way more economical?
Re: Problems with the new electric Mustang.........
[Re: HotRodDave]
#2944448 07/18/2112:00 AM07/18/2112:00 AM