Re: SAVING FRONT END WT.
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07/13/21 12:57 PM
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it depends on what you removing. Meaning if the new K takes away the T bars and the steering box (rack) then it can be a decent amount 50+ lbs. Now if you changing from stock brakes to aftermarket at the same time, now you going to lose over 100. Most claim 50+ lbs
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Re: SAVING FRONT END WT.
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11/26/21 10:46 PM
11/26/21 10:46 PM
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What year and body style ?
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Re: SAVING FRONT END WT.
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11/27/21 03:10 AM
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Are you talking about replacing it with a tubular K member with stock steering and torsion bars or a tubular K member with rack and pinion steering with coil overs in A arms or a strut front end with no K member?
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: SAVING FRONT END WT.
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11/28/21 05:36 PM
11/28/21 05:36 PM
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I see claims of 200lb loss. Has anybody ever really weighed the K frame, steering box, linkage, torsion bars, upper arm/ball joint, lower arm/ball joint, spindles, strut rods? Doubt if all these parts weighs 200 lbs total. Shocks and brakes fit either set-up so have no bearing. If you trim the K frame my bet there is very little loss with the exception of going coil over or rack/pinion. Obviously strut, rack/pinion, spindle mount with small brakes is the lightest. But not practical for most applications. Doug
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Re: SAVING FRONT END WT.
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#2989922
11/28/21 05:49 PM
11/28/21 05:49 PM
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I see claims of 200lb loss. Has anybody ever really weighed the K frame, steering box, linkage, torsion bars, upper arm/ball joint, lower arm/ball joint, spindles, strut rods? Doubt if all these parts weighs 200 lbs total. Shocks and brakes fit either set-up so have no bearing. If you trim the K frame my bet there is very little loss with the exception of going coil over or rack/pinion. Obviously strut, rack/pinion, spindle mount with small brakes is the lightest. But not practical for most applications. Doug Doug trimming the lip all around on an A body K will usually take 9-10 lbs off . At least on the later 1973 up ones I have done . Heaviest parts on stock front is the Torsion bars , the lower control arms , and don’t forget the Torsion bar mounts in the frame
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Re: SAVING FRONT END WT.
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11/28/21 06:33 PM
11/28/21 06:33 PM
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I see claims of 200lb loss. Has anybody ever really weighed the K frame, steering box, linkage, torsion bars, upper arm/ball joint, lower arm/ball joint, spindles, strut rods? Doubt if all these parts weighs 200 lbs total. Shocks and brakes fit either set-up so have no bearing. If you trim the K frame my bet there is very little loss with the exception of going coil over or rack/pinion. Obviously strut, rack/pinion, spindle mount with small brakes is the lightest. But not practical for most applications. Doug When I bought my AJE he claimed a loss of 125# on an A body. The fine print was that you were replacing POWER steering and POWER disc brakes. Manual steering and brakes were a lot less of a loss, and a bunch of that came from replacing the factory disc setup with Wilwoods.
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Re: SAVING FRONT END WT.
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#2989932
11/28/21 06:34 PM
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Is there any real weight savings in eliminating factory K? A body? If you're wondering about switching to a QA1 K frame - there is no weight savings over a stock one. If you get ALL their parts (like I did) they claim you end up saving a total of 18 lbs but I don't see it. The adjustable aluminum strut bars save the most at a few lbs. each side. The tubular upper A arms are a wash and might even be heavier than the stock ones. Tubular lowers save a little bit of weight but not much, maybe a pound. There's no option to get them without sway bar brackets. On a stock type front end 9 or 10" drum brake-based brakes save the most weight. The spindles are smaller, ball joints are smaller, it's easily 35 lbs. + a side over stock or stock-based parts with street rotors. Race-only brakes would be more. Like said already, switching to a rack/strut style front end is the way to go if you want actual light parts.
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