I have a question about the starter did you need a spacer between the starter and the bell housing if so how thick thanks for the help

Depends on whos parts you are using for the install. But yes I have always had to use one and depending on whos parts between .020" to 3/8"!

There is no 'one answer fits all' here unless the answer is "*it depends*". Basically you'll have to determine what distance you'll need depending on the type of starter IN EVERY APPLICATION. There just are so many ways to retrofit a PG, so many different parts available (INCLUDING CONVERTER) you could list everything but still the answer is the same. On my Tilton the free gap was .100" plusminus .040 AND to set the backlash between .01 and .03"

Dammit beat me to the punch again!

we are using a JW bellhousing with a Meziere flexplate and an ATI converter

Call all three of them and see what they want for their parts

Some of the adapters that mount the flywheel to the crank determines a lot. Some go on the engine side and some go towards the transmission

Good points.

Just to show the wide range of results, here is my combo:
PG with JW Ultrabell
ATI flexplate and crank adapter
440 stock block
Power Master mini starter (normal size Denso style mini starter)
1/4" thick midplate between the block and JW bell housing.
Turbo style converter (Ultimate Converter) (PG has turbo input shaft); and 1/4" thick spacers between the converter lugs and flexplate (supplied by Ultimate Converters).

Starter spacer (two pieces) 0.537"
And the starter nose uses the JW nose extension too.

Part of that thickness is because the previous owner cut the midplate opening so 1/4" is just for the midplate thickness.

what does the cost have to do with the question

Here’s some of my stash of parts from over the years as I’ve used a lot of different kits in my small and big blocks I got a few of those shim packs from summit and they work great.

you wouldn't happen to have the part number for the JW shim package

Bought mine from Coan set mine up and it all fit.

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I just got out of the hospital and I’m kind of wiped out but I will try to look it up tomorrow

The question was what space they want on between the converter and their parts, not costs
I have been told by A1 and Mikes Tranny two different specs. on that space
FTI wants theirs different also

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We used a JW bell with his crank adapter, The Wheel and shim kit to start. Didn't like all the shims so after determining the thickness needed, we made 2 1/4" aluminum spacers. 1/8"mid plate from when we had the 3 speed so it was scalloped to allow the starter to mount against the bell. Standard GM converter with 1/8" shims between the flexplate and converter pads. Mopar Performance starter. Worked perfect..

I just use a 3/8 flat washer

I use shims like Pittsburgh posted in his pic that came with my JW bell years ago.

I only use one with my setup.

thanks everyone for the answers its been informative i guess i wont know the answer for our setup until i get the converter back from being checked

Exactly. Get a good flashlight and after you bolt the starter in check your clearance. Push the starter away enough so you have plenty of clearance. Good luck.