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Installing Engine/Trans in Demon #2939443
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About ready to drop in engine/trans - headers.
360, 904, TTI 1 7/8” x 3 1/2” headers.
Stock engine compartment, no wiper or heater motor.
Question is, back in the day I put the transmission in under the car, drop the engine in and headers at the same time from the top.
Is it possible to put the engine & transmission together and put them in at the same time?
I do have one of Myk’s Tools engine pivot lift plate, it worked great with my Coronet - 440/727 at the same time, not sure on an A body.
Being a bit older, I feel it may be a bit easier, but wondering if anyone has experience doing it either way, and what would be easier.
I know I should just not be a lazy [censored] and go out to the shop and try it, just looking for a bit of assistance before I do to help make it go a bit smoother.

Thanks all!

Wally.

Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: wkroncke17] #2939472
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I've installed a bunch of A motors in any different year A bodies with them bolted together, 727,904 and 4 speeds stick tranny and maybe one 3 speed stick tranny up The one piece headers are more challenging fitting them in at the same time than the motor and tranny are twocents
Good luck on your deal up


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Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: wkroncke17] #2939486
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I have put a 440/727 combo in together from the top in a 74 Duster. No doubt it can be done with a small block combo. Doubt you will be able to do it with the headers bolted to the engine, but with a little help you can lay the headers in place first then lower the engine tranny combo in.

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You can do it. Helps if you have an extra set of hands.

Coated headers, leave or put them in plastic/garbage bags to protected. Bungee cord them up if working alone.

Having a V out pan makes things harder.

Go slow when lowering and make sure the headers aren't pinching.

Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: crackedback] #2939702
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Originally Posted by crackedback
You can do it. Helps if you have an extra set of hands.

Coated headers, leave or put them in plastic/garbage bags to protected. Bungee cord them up if working alone.

Having a V out pan makes things harder.

Go slow when lowering and make sure the headers aren't pinching.


Thanks all for the tips.
Like I’ve posted on here many times, I had a much easier time when I was working on this car 30 years ago, energy, strength and honesty didn’t care if I screwed something up, I’d just fix it. 20 years of the car sitting, raising kids, work etc…
My son isn’t in to it as I was , but helps when I ask so I hope to have an extra set of hands.
I’m trying to do things once, and do it correctly to make the var reliable, fun and fast.
I sure do appreciate everyone’s 2 cents on all of the questions I’ve asked on here, quite frankly I get a lot of inspiration from the answers and what everyone else puts on here, especially the old guys like Cab…..👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you!

Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: wkroncke17] #2939944
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You can do them together, no biggie if you can get the tilt.
Also helps the angle to have the car's rear higher than its front.
Did an R&I - engine only - without removing the hood, and with a deep pan as well, but it was tight.
I have some clean blankets, moving blankets, and towels to wrap firewall, aprons, yoke, & headers.
Lay the headers in, bungee for best location, and take your time.
Pan, steering, distributor, trans/tunnel, and headers are the pinch points.
Floor jack for tailshaft, have everything laid out, and it can even be a 1-person job, I've done it.
But I'd recommend having an experienced friend just for the 2nd set of eyes & help aligning things.

Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: wkroncke17] #2940128
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Originally Posted by wkroncke17
Originally Posted by crackedback
You can do it. Helps if you have an extra set of hands.

Coated headers, leave or put them in plastic/garbage bags to protected. Bungee cord them up if working alone.

Having a V out pan makes things harder.

Go slow when lowering and make sure the headers aren't pinching.


Thanks all for the tips.
Like I’ve posted on here many times, I had a much easier time when I was working on this car 30 years ago, energy, strength and honesty didn’t care if I screwed something up, I’d just fix it. 20 years of the car sitting, raising kids, work etc…
My son isn’t in to it as I was , but helps when I ask so I hope to have an extra set of hands.
I’m trying to do things once, and do it correctly to make the var reliable, fun and fast.
I sure do appreciate everyone’s 2 cents on all of the questions I’ve asked on here, quite frankly I get a lot of inspiration from the answers and what everyone else puts on here, especially the old guys like Cab…..👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you!



I get it. Crawling around on and getting up and down from the shop floor ain't my idea of fun anymore either. I want to do it once and be done. Building an engine test and break in stand for this exact reason.

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Originally Posted by mgoblue9798
Originally Posted by wkroncke17
Originally Posted by crackedback
You can do it. Helps if you have an extra set of hands.

Coated headers, leave or put them in plastic/garbage bags to protected. Bungee cord them up if working alone.

Having a V out pan makes things harder.

Go slow when lowering and make sure the headers aren't pinching.


Thanks all for the tips.
Like I’ve posted on here many times, I had a much easier time when I was working on this car 30 years ago, energy, strength and honesty didn’t care if I screwed something up, I’d just fix it. 20 years of the car sitting, raising kids, work etc…
My son isn’t in to it as I was , but helps when I ask so I hope to have an extra set of hands.
I’m trying to do things once, and do it correctly to make the var reliable, fun and fast.
I sure do appreciate everyone’s 2 cents on all of the questions I’ve asked on here, quite frankly I get a lot of inspiration from the answers and what everyone else puts on here, especially the old guys like Cab…..👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you!



I get it. Crawling around on and getting up and down from the shop floor ain't my idea of fun anymore either. I want to do it once and be done. Building an engine test and break in stand for this exact reason.


Exactly what I’ve done!
If you lived closer, I’d loan it to you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RtnO3F8nCak

Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: wkroncke17] #2941395
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Ok guys! All the details and little time consuming stuff is done.
I’m ready to drop it in, tomorrow night or Saturday, I’ll be sure to post updates.
Thanks again for all the assistance everyone!

Wally.

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I know I'm late, what about lifting car and bringing engine up from bottom like like the factory did?

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I have done it that way and it definitely has some advantages but it appears he has the k frame and front suspension already in.

Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: BDW] #2942561
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Originally Posted by BDW
I know I'm late, what about lifting car and bringing engine up from bottom like like the factory did?


All,
Engine is in - went in really easy with trans attached, so I decided to do headers afterwards.
Installing headers wasn't easy by any means, but follow directions and I'll be damned they do get in place eventually.
It seems the starter housing is just barely making contact with the SFI flex plate. Anyone ever encounter this? I'd imagine a couple touches with a grinding wheel should rectify that.

Thanks again everyone for the assistance!!

Wally.P.S. - Someday I would like to do the install from the bottom along with the K Frame - It looks pretty simple.

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Re: Installing Engine/Trans in Demon [Re: wkroncke17] #2942612
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Many BB came with starter shims, spacers, from the factory up scope

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Not to hijack, OP...for Cab, Was in a bar last night,
saw a Tin advertisement for Deshutes brewery, Bend OR.

Still in business?. Thought of you when I saw it.

Joe

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I'm not sure if they are still opened or if they went B.K. confused
Bend has a bunch of brewery, a big bunch shruggy
I stop drinking American beer after coming back from Hanau, Germany in 1968 while in the U.S. Army, them Germans know how to make really good beer up
I've never liked beer though, give me good brand of Kentucky made Bourbon and I'm happy up boogie grin


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Nice job on the install







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