Re: Trickflow 270 heads with promagnum rockers
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05/28/21 08:41 AM
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lancer493
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You may want try checking the profiles of some other brand lightweight steel retainers. They sometimes are dimensionally smaller than standard or titanium retainers which could give you the small amount that you are looking for without putting a second question into the equation about strength reduction incurred by machining the rockers.I personally used Isky lightweight steel retainers for my Victor head/ Hughes rocker combo for a solid roller cam.I was able to fit 1.625" valve springs here, but only after using Mike's (B3) rocker geometry kit. Another member here,Jeremiah, suggested that I look into Isky's inventory my valvetrain that was similar to his.Others here have rightly pointed out how lacking the original Mopar shaft rocker geometry is. As stated before, Mike at B3 racing is a phenomenal source on this information. Remember, .005" is as good as .050" here if the components remain dimensionally stable.Valve stem scrub, in my opinion, can be overly adressed in an engine that is not highly modified,due to cost versus returns. It can get VERY expensive and time comsuming in a minor or medium build. Only you can decide how important it is in relation to the rest of your build. Good luck. Bill
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Re: Trickflow 270 heads with promagnum rockers
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05/29/21 08:18 PM
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Cab_Burge
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I have a pump gas 440 blower motor to fix for a customer who does not know who made it or anything else about it. It had a steel core solid roller cam with Comp Cams 829 lifters and Comps early single shaft stainless steel rocker arms that they recommend in their catalog to not use more than 350 Lbs. max pressure on the valve springs. This cam had .345 lobe lift so it had less than .500 valvelift with the lash I call Comp Cams 3 weeks ago and ask them if that pressure still applies and they said absolutely, do not exceed 400 lbs. under any use I got the new Harland Sharp single shaft rockers this week and am now waiting on Manton to make my new pushrods for this motor I'm hoping the customer will have me dyno test it also
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 05/29/21 08:20 PM.
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Trickflow 270 heads with promagnum rockers
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05/29/21 10:37 PM
05/29/21 10:37 PM
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Comps early single shaft stainless steel rocker arms that they recommend in their catalog to not use more than 350 Lbs. max pressure on the valve springs. do the rockers look like the pic above your post but more silver colored? are they unbushed? do you know the part number?
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Re: Trickflow 270 heads with promagnum rockers
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05/30/21 03:00 AM
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The ones that were on that motor are stainless steel color, not coated at all. I don't know what part number it was when sold I was told by that rep during the conversation that their paired shaft stainless steel rockers will work good with a lot more spring pressure like I run on my bracket race motors,700+ Lbs. opened These will end up being used on a small hydraulic lifter or solid flat tappet motor with under 400 Lbs. max
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 05/30/21 03:02 AM.
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Trickflow 270 heads with promagnum rockers
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05/30/21 10:20 AM
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The Comp steel rockers for Mopars were never “stainless”. They were/are 8620 Chromemoly.
The issues with the early ones and high spring loads was because the early ones weren’t bushed and could seize on the shaft. They are now bushed, so that problem has been solved.
If someone has some of the early ones and you want to use them with higher spring loads, send them to RAU and have them bushed, and have them supply the undersized shafts, spacers, hold downs, etc. That’s a pretty nice set up.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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