Yes the drain backs are clearly a hemi thing but I am not sure if it matters. I have seen some of the earlier Mopar wedge blocks with drain holes. Does not seem to hurt anything. I remember one vividly as it had a machine tool broke off in it!!! ON a wedge no worries on a hemi big problem. Todd
Zipster, do you think the price will come down? Or the quality go up?
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Yep, the top row of head bolts were not drilled and tapped. Have to call and get this resolved. Thanks for the heads up on the hemi oil drain back holes. I had no idea what they were there for. Not sure why they put them on an RB. They are drilled straight through to the sump and are not covered by the head.
Ship weight was 340# so around 320 sounds right for the block.
Yes, the rear main has alignment dowels installed.
Yep, the top row of head bolts were not drilled and tapped. Have to call and get this resolved. Thanks for the heads up on the hemi oil drain back holes. I had no idea what they were there for. Not sure why they put them on an RB. They are drilled straight through to the sump and are not covered by the head.
Ship weight was 340# so around 320 sounds right for the block.
Yes, the rear main has alignment dowels installed.
Sorry if I was unclear, the dowel revision was actually in the seal retainer. All 5 main caps were doweled from day one, but the seal retainer was only doweled towards the end of Chrysler's engineering involvement with the product.
The head bolts and drainbacks are just errors. I know I speak for many here when I say, if you'd take the time to report how they take care of you, we'd sure be interested to know.
I guess how this “should” be taken care of will differ depending on who you ask.
Imo, how it should be handled is a call tag is sent to pick up the block, and a “non-defective” unit should show up as it’s replacement. I look at the hemi oil drain holes there as something that would classify that one as a “blem”...... which would be sold as such, at a discounted price, with the buyer aware of it......... and that’s after the head bolt hole situation has been rectified.
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Someone at the factory got their CNC machining programs mixed up between Hemi and Wedge. They'll need to inspect all the blocks on the floor to figure out when the program got mixed up and how many blocks were made wrong. Hate to see stuff like that get out the door. Costs 10x as much to fix once the parts leave the dock.
We all make mistakes but it's nice to know there's no quality control whatsoever. How does the QC man sleep at night? His services are worth nowhere near minimum wage.
I'm looking for the upper row of head bolts and can't see them.
Uuuuuhhhh.........
I’m also wondering how deep those hemi head oil drain back holes go(and why they’re there at all).
What else is different between a HEMI and wedge block? Other than upper head bolts and the oil drain? Could this block just get the HEMI upper bolt position drilled and be used as a HEMI block?
Someone at the factory got their CNC machining programs mixed up between Hemi and Wedge. They'll need to inspect all the blocks on the floor to figure out when the program got mixed up and how many blocks were made wrong. Hate to see stuff like that get out the door. Costs 10x as much to fix once the parts leave the dock.
Costs 10x as much to fix once the parts leave the CNC machine. Once it's moved off the setup, it takes some work to get it dialed in again. They should rebate some of the cost of the block to compensate, say half price?
I'm looking for the upper row of head bolts and can't see them.
Uuuuuhhhh.........
I’m also wondering how deep those hemi head oil drain back holes go(and why they’re there at all).
What else is different between a HEMI and wedge block? Other than upper head bolts and the oil drain? Could this block just get the HEMI upper bolt position drilled and be used as a HEMI block?
Not sure about the motor mounts. They would need to drill and tap the Hemi mounts and maybe machine off the ears? I'm not sure what the process is for these blocks. In any case, if the buyer thought he was buying a wedge block and it was sold as a wedge block then someone at the factory messed up. They either pulled the wrong block off the line or something else went wrong. I'm sure they'll figure it out but it is a bad start.
I'm looking for the upper row of head bolts and can't see them.
Uuuuuhhhh.........
I’m also wondering how deep those hemi head oil drain back holes go(and why they’re there at all).
What else is different between a HEMI and wedge block? Other than upper head bolts and the oil drain? Could this block just get the HEMI upper bolt position drilled and be used as a HEMI block?
The Hemi block has eight steam holes near the lower head bolt holes. The wedge block does not have these steam holes. The block pictured above is correct for a wedge block and does not have the Hemi steam holes.
The wedge industrial blocks had these steam holes.
