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Post deleted by Defbob #29102 08/01/06 04:23 PM 08/01/06 04:23 PM
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29103 08/01/06 04:27 PM 08/01/06 04:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,784 Corpus Christi, TX shanker master
shanker master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,784 Corpus Christi, TX	I wonder if Helium would yield abother 1mpg over that? Here is the deal, Nitrogen makes up 85% of our atmosphere, the air compressor that is used to fill tires up, is compressing 85% nitrogen as it is, that news channel is full of it. There was a thread on this a while back The Federal Government has not yet learned that you cannot legislate morality 1970 Coronet R/T FF4/FF8/V85/V1G 440/Auto/3.23 1970 Coronet R/T FK5/FK5/V8W/V1W 440/Auto/3.55 1970 Super Bee TX9/TX9/V8W/N96 383/Auto/3.91 1975 Duster 360 VS29L5 Daily Driver

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: shanker] #29104 08/01/06 04:41 PM 08/01/06 04:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,945 Olympia, Washington T tallzag top fuel
tallzag top fuel T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,945 Olympia, Washington	I think Nitrogen is just more stable than normal air in your tire, it won't change pressure as much with the temperature outside. As long as you keep an eye on your pressures you won't see any difference, but if you never check it then it is probably a good idea. Rocket Restorations

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: tallzag] #29105 08/01/06 04:56 PM 08/01/06 04:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,561 Santa Rosa, NOR*CAL. Just Cameron Too Many Posts
Just Cameron Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,561 Santa Rosa, NOR*CAL.	I tried pouring that there "Nitrogen" stuff into my tires once...My wheels just cracked off the car.

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: tallzag] #29106 08/01/06 05:13 PM 08/01/06 05:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,925 ROLL TIDE ROLL Dick H. Tin Man
Dick H. Tin Man Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,925 ROLL TIDE ROLL	Quote: I think Nitrogen is just more stable than normal air in your tire, it won't change pressure as much with the temperature outside. As long as you keep an eye on your pressures you won't see any difference, but if you never check it then it is probably a good idea. Bingo. It's just more stable as temperature changes, that's why turbine aircraft use it in tires, pretty much exclusively. I have a friend who is an HVAC guy, and years ago, he had a tire leaking pretty bad on his service van, and he's stranded in the middle of nowhere. So he gets the bright idea to put some R12 in the tire to get him to a tire shop. It worked for a minute, but after a mile or so, the R-12 heated up and the pressure went to the moon, and so did the tire sidewall. BAM! NOT a good roadside fix.

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: Dick H.] #29107 08/01/06 05:39 PM 08/01/06 05:39 PM
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Jerry master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,988 Warren, MI	nitrogen is used primarily because it is stable. tanks of nitrogen are 99% pure and therefore can resist changes in extreme temperature conditions. cars that run over 150 MPH and have wide tires and lots of side load generate alot of heat and therefore can go to extreme temps from standing still to running. most passenger cars although change temps will not undergo the extreme change required to make this effective. i agree, check your tire pressures every now and again and adjust accordingly. Superior Design Concepts 2574 Elliott Dr Troy MI 48083 jerry@sdconcepts.com www.sdconcepts.com Facebook page: Superior Design Concepts www.bcrproducts.com

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: Jerry] #29108 08/01/06 05:56 PM 08/01/06 05:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,440 So Cal Sinitro master
Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,440 So Cal	Another advantage of filling a tire with Nitrogen is that the itsmolecules are thicker and bigger than air.. So if the tire has a slow leak it takes considerably longer for the tire to deflate.......

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29109 08/01/06 08:19 PM 08/01/06 08:19 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: Local news article claimed 1-1.5 mpg improvement. Anyone here tried it ? Nope. not that gullible. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29110 08/01/06 08:31 PM 08/01/06 08:31 PM
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wingman Uncreative Title Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,380 St. Charles, MO	Quote: Local news article claimed 1-1.5 mpg improvement. Anyone here tried it ? No, but I do religiously change the air in my tires every 3,000 miles. 1969 Dodge Coronet Super Bee 383 A4 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 440 FC7 (sold)

Post deleted by Defbob [Re: wingman] #29111 08/01/06 08:37 PM 08/01/06 08:37 PM
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29112 08/01/06 08:42 PM 08/01/06 08:42 PM
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wingman Uncreative Title Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,380 St. Charles, MO	Quote: Quote: Quote: Local news article claimed 1-1.5 mpg improvement. Anyone here tried it ? No, but I do religiously change the air in my tires every 3,000 miles. do you use NOS air or reproduction ? Reproduction. I pulled the original air out of the tires and store it in baloons in my garage. It's too valuable to use every day! I put it back in sometime for shows though--you know how those judges can be. 1969 Dodge Coronet Super Bee 383 A4 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 440 FC7 (sold)

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29113 08/01/06 08:43 PM 08/01/06 08:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 70,126 Here DirectSubjection Tacohead. The First and Only
DirectSubjection Tacohead. The First and Only Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 70,126 Here	I use recycled. Ride eternal, shiny and chrome

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29114 08/01/06 09:30 PM 08/01/06 09:30 PM
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njmopar pro stock N Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,331 Clinton, NJ	From what I hear from the old timers, Mercedes-Benz was going to do this in the late 70s or early 80s. I think they did some testing, but then realized that it was not practical once the car was in the customers hands.

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Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29116 08/01/06 10:04 PM 08/01/06 10:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,590 Piqua, Ohio dodgeram440 master
dodgeram440 master Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,590 Piqua, Ohio	What it really comes down to is that the large majority of drivers on the road today just do not check the maintenance on their cars regularly. They don't check air pressures, fluid levels, lights, ect. This nitrogen is just another way to make a lazy people even lazier. Just look at the other cars on the road when you are out driving and see how many cars and trucks have visibly low tires. When they come out with an oil that leaks out slower than the current oil so you only havee to check it once a year, I'm going to hang up my wrenches.

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: dodgeram440] #29117 08/01/06 11:30 PM 08/01/06 11:30 PM
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RapidusMaximus top fuel Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,411 Weatherford, Texas	Actually I've heard that' it's petty handy in drag slicks...keeps you from having to chase tire pressure all day...especially if you are running all day and into the night...for us little guys it would probably be the PIA factor that would keep us from trying it...having to keep a nitrogen bottle as part of your track equipment...keep it filled...use a storage tank instead of a regular air compressor...might be just too much trouble... 1968 Plymouth GTX 1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 2019 Ram 2500 6.4, auto, 4WD

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: RapidusMaximus] #29118 08/02/06 12:24 AM 08/02/06 12:24 AM
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wyoming top fuel W Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,152 Fancy Farm Ky	Nitrogen an Oxygen the two biggest components in air actually have about exactly the same specific heat ratio, so the heat pressure deal doesn't really fly, you get rid of the O2 you do get rid of the corosion factor of O2, but not many tires corode, without any O2, I guess you would also have a safer tire, no O2 to support combustion, as long as it's in the tire. I work in the natural gas biz, I've seen that used in a pinch out in the field, but it's allways best to warn the guy fixing that tire. LOL

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: wyoming] #29119 08/02/06 08:51 AM 08/02/06 08:51 AM
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RoadRunner master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,138 East Aurora (Buffalo) NY	N2 and air are, for all intensive purposes, the same. That is, any heat expansion air has, the N2 will have too. But what N2 doesn't have is moisture and CO2 which do vary vapor pressure greatly with temperature fluctuations a tire will be exposed to. Also, as stated, there is no O2 to contribute to corrosion (or moisture) and the lack of O2 will prevent the rubber from braking down on the inside. For the money these guys are charging for N2 though, man, thats a racquet. I work in the air seperation industry and know what it takes to generate N2. 68 Road Runner (383/4speed, post car w/decor pkg) - Major Project 69 Road Runner w/472 Hemi & 4 speed. 70 Challenger R/T SE EF8 w/ V9J, U - A32 - Major Project 2023 Ford Mach 1

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? [Re: RoadRunner] #29120 08/02/06 08:59 AM 08/02/06 08:59 AM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	I understand that some places offer a free "tornado" with the nitrogen replacement to give you an even better mileage increase!

Re: Nitrogen filled tires increase mileage ? #29121 08/02/06 09:19 AM 08/02/06 09:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 master
CJK440 master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	If regular air expands more with heat than straight N2 then you would think that you get better mileage with regular air as the pressure builds and rolling resistance goes down. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

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