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498 Eagle stroker kit #2883800
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Hey guys,

I need some input on the Eagle brand stroker kits. I am building a 500-ish hp Eddy headed 400/498 motor for my ramcharger and saw this kit as I was shopping the various web stores. At 2k this seems very reasonably priced even though unbalanced. I know eagle has been around for fair amount of time, I just want to know if there is any reason to steer away from this kit.



https://www.jegs.com/i/Eagle/356/21...PyXik-nbqDcqH8PFwvSEb5zZaa_oaMqXPRc1VpEw


thanks



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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: MrMayhem] #2883832
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The crank and rods will need to be checked over for sizing. The Eagle stuff usually requires a touch up on their finishing/sizing.


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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: MrMayhem] #2883872
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Everything Eagle sells for Mopar engines is made in China and listed by them as made in the U.S.A. work
Did you call Ohio Crankshaft Company yet for similar parts made here in the U.S.A? It not maybe you should twocents 800-333-7113 scope


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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: Cab_Burge] #2883891
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A friend of mine has Eagle crank and rods with Diamond pistons in his Dodge Stratus running in the 8.50s and never had a problem with the Eagle stuff.

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: Cab_Burge] #2883897
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As long as ANY machine work is performed in the US to allow a product to reach a "finished", sellable condition, they can legally list it the way they have.

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: earlymopar] #2883909
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I've had a Eagle crank and rods since 2003. If I were to buy now, and I just did, I'd look at a kit through Molnar.


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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: JERICOGTX] #2883910
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After the machine shop corrects everything , they aren't the bargain they appear to be.
That is not saying they are junk , but like anything else , you get what you pay for.

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: MrMayhem] #2883922
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Just out of curiosity, why would you buy an unbalanced kit?

I'll throw in another vote for Ohio Crank.


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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: DaveRS23] #2883936
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Just out of curiosity, why would you buy an unbalanced kit?
My machine shop will balance for $200 verses the 600 Eagle
charges for a balanced kit



I'll throw in another vote for Ohio Crank.

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: MrMayhem] #2883940
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I just looked at the OHIO website, they dont appear to sell anything for B motor applications.....

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: DaveRS23] #2883944
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Just out of curiosity, why would you buy an unbalanced kit?


Buying an expensive rotating assembly from a "reputable" builder, paying extra for balance and receiving the rods in the factory-sealed bags is a good reason. The shop I use for balancing charges the same price and actually weighs and corrects as needed.

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: MrMayhem] #2883948
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Check with 440 Source. I bought a 3.915 stroke crank and put in a 383 . It was perfect on all bearing clearances, a nice looking piece. Can't beat their prices either.

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Source or Molnar

Used both with good results

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: MrMayhem] #2883970
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They (Ohio)can whip you up anything you want. B-series mains are an option. Call them, see how much one of their kits would be in b-series.

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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: B1MAXX] #2883992
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I used a Eagle Kit in a 512 it has the Mahle pistons it came balanced from Eagle - Machinist that did the block was sure it was going to be way off - had it checked it was within a gram.....I would use one of their Kits again for a budget build

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: DoubleD] #2884001
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http://store.440source.com/Stroker-Kits/products/3/

http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/...b3cgRGVjayk=&level1=U3Ryb2tlciBLaXRz

Hughes kits are priced a little higher but use Molnar cranks and rods, with Icon pistons
and come balanced

Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: tubtar] #2884006
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Originally Posted by tubtar
After the machine shop corrects everything , they aren't the bargain they appear to be.
That is not saying they are junk , but like anything else , you get what you pay for.

iagree They're decent parts, it's just that the finish machining usually isn't very good. Don't be surprised if your brand new Eagle crank needs to be turned .010/.010 to correct it.
Same goes for the rods. The ones I've seen had the caps cut tapered inward...had to be resized to fix them.
Once that's done you have decent parts, but now look at the money you have tied up in them.

Molnar seems to have MUCH better quality for a similar price. twocents


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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: B1MAXX] #2884029
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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
They (Ohio)can whip you up anything you want. B-series mains are an option. Call them, see how much one of their kits would be in b-series.
iagree scope
I usually build my own "kits", motor parts from different vendors like Ohio Crankshaft, Molnar, Diamond, RaceTech, UEM and so on depending on the build and customers goals work up

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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: kwikblownhemi] #2884120
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Originally Posted by kwikblownhemi
Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Just out of curiosity, why would you buy an unbalanced kit?


Buying an expensive rotating assembly from a "reputable" builder, paying extra for balance and receiving the rods in the factory-sealed bags is a good reason. The shop I use for balancing charges the same price and actually weighs and corrects as needed.


Frankly, I have never shopped for stroker kits by looking for the lowest price. Recommendations here and other places played a big role, along with the parts descriptions and finally, the way the salesman spoke on the phone. Some shops just didn't have time to answer the questions. Then, as long as the price was not out of line with their competitors, it becomes an easy decision. Consequently, the only companies that I have ever used have been Ohio Crank for my wedges and Ray Barton for the Hemi. I always have a local shop check it all. Everything has always checked out good. Ohio Crank even helps me calculate the comp ratio I am shooting for and machine the pistons to get there. I still have that first 499 engine that I built with an Ohio kit. It's probably 10 years old now and has had a lot of abuse including hurting it a time or two.

$600 for balancing or parts in their original packaging would not fly with me, either. But I have not experienced those issues with Ohio or Barton. Knock on wood.


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Re: 498 Eagle stroker kit [Re: DaveRS23] #2884156
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Another voice for Tom Molnar(Molnar Technologies). Tom founded K1 many moons ago and is a good guy. You will spend a few more bucks piecing it together this way, but you'll know exactly who made ALL your stuff and be able to put a really good piston in your motor.

The reasons for choosing Molnar aren't just because he's a good guy; Molnar's stuff is made of good material and measures as well as any aftermarket company's stuff - better than almost anyone else's.

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