Re: Please critique this 440 build
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The block will be more than fine, any year would do, the block issue is the most overblown thing I have seen.
Rods will be fine if machined right, but might cost close to a new set so check it out. Would make it easy to go to the .990 pin.
3" might be a bit much, but won't hurt other than maybe kill a small amount of low end torque. If you want it loud that would do it though.
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Re: Please critique this 440 build
[Re: frank]
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It saves a ton of rotating weight in the engine. It isn't something to sweat if you keep the stock pin, which is somethign like 1.07 You might ask what it will cost to bush your stock rods to that size but don't spend a bunch to do so. .990 is stock big block Chevy size, and those pins hold gobs of power. The Mopar pins were overkill, you know, normal for Mopar stuff of the day
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Re: Please critique this 440 build
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04/13/09 11:21 PM
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Block is 69 vintage. Original engine. Would 3 inch exhaust be too big? Engine should make about 550 hp
I like this combo alot.
I think it is a nice real life build for a 354 geared street car.
BUT, I think you will need more cam(duration) to see over 500hp.
The rest of the motor is ready for it (worked heads etc)
I don't think you want more cam with these gears, and a 4 speed street car. I'm just saying this will probably be just a hair under 500.
And dont' worry about the comp being too high. Heads are aluminum, so it won't get too high.
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Re: Please critique this 440 build
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My .02. Id shoot for a minimum for 10.5 comp with the aluminum heads. Ditch the cam and get a solid around 250 duration at .050. That hyd cam you listed is a baby, to me anyway. The SD is a good intake, no problem with it. My car weighs 3800 lbs, using a comp 259@.050 solid, with no quench whatsover. 10.6 compression. Ported 452's. Ive had 3.23's, 3.55s and 4.30s in the car. Car runs fine with all 3 ratios. I honestly cant feel a big seat of the pants difference between any of the ratios. Acts just fine on the street. I agree your combo wont make 550 HP. As planned Id say more like 450 or so. My stuff might make 525 if Im lucky.
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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Please critique this 440 build
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Combo looks good, fairly simular the the CarCraft Edelbrock headed 440 built many years ago that made 535 HP, and really good torque (with unported heads.)
I don't believe the numbers that mag articles throw out on engine builds ESPECIALLY if the engine was run on the HAPPY WESTECH DYNO . No way that build above is going to make 550HP with that tiny HYD. cam . Also if you are shooting for 550HP ditch the stock rods , it makes zero sense to run them considering the low cost of better quality replacements available .
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Re: Please critique this 440 build
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04/14/09 09:45 AM
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Re: Please critique this 440 build
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It's probably just me, but those Indy-worked heads kinda throw up a red flag. I guess I'm just spoiled by MCH.
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