Re: '68 Satellite Brake Problems
[Re: dbc105]
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04/09/09 04:42 PM
04/09/09 04:42 PM
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RapidRobert
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the linings need to be up & tight to where as you rotate the wheels by hand(fronts) there is one point where as you spin each wheel by hand you hear a "tick" of contact & the rears w jack under the axle, wheels off the ground, eng idling in gear linings spooned out to where you hear the same"tick" at one point as each wheel is rotating. If good there I'd suspect the booster or its check valve. Are you saying it feels like you run out of pedal travel & not enough braking? & the lining surfaces did not look abnormal as in glazed
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Re: '68 Satellite Brake Problems
[Re: dbc105]
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04/09/09 04:58 PM
04/09/09 04:58 PM
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JohnRR
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Quote:
The Satellite I just bought does not have good brakes. Power drums on all 4 corners. First the pedal does not come up as high as I am used to in my '94 Caprice. Looking under the dash the pedal is back against the stop light switch and it doesn't look like it would come back any further. When I press the pedal, it feels like the master cylinder is bottoming out before the brakes are fully applied. I have adjusted the shoes and bleed all 4 corners. I also removed the master cylinder and set the length of the push rod coming out of the booster. The pedal just does not seem to have a lot stroke. A new master cylinder had been installed just before I bought the car. I am thinking it is bad or the wrong one. Do these cars normally have a short pedal stroke in comparison to late model cars? Also, if I replace the master cylinder I would like to install one that would work with the disc conversion. Will this work ok with the drums for now? I would like to get this worked out and start driving the car.
Thanks,
David Clark
4 wheel drums are not going to even remotely feel like your 94 model car .
When was the last time you drove something this old ?
There are adjustments you can make but it's never going to brake like a car with 4 wheel disc brakes
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Re: '68 Satellite Brake Problems
[Re: dbc105]
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04/09/09 11:01 PM
04/09/09 11:01 PM
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If i understand correctly what you mean by the master cylinder bottoming out, that would be full pedal travel. Maybe youve got a short pedal rod. What happens when you lock them up? Are the drums maybe very worn and need to be replaced? How much pad are on the shoes? A friend of mine bought a road runner that had very poor braking, it was a restored car. He thought he had serious problems and the pedal went to the floor and the car would hardly stop. Turned out the drums were paper thin. Even if the adjustment is all the way out on the drum, if the drum is worn too big only so much of the shoe will make contact with the inside of the drum.
If you push the pedal all the way down do the wheels lock up?
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Re: '68 Satellite Brake Problems
[Re: RapidRobert]
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04/10/09 02:43 PM
04/10/09 02:43 PM
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I have a 68 Charger, and yes the pedal is much lower than anything made in the last 3 decades.. The travel is also much less. GM cars were designed much differently even back when these were new.. And I have the 11x3 brakes and they are more like speed scrubbers...compared to the Gm disc stuff from the 80s... One other problem area can be the parking brake, if it rusted it will hold the rear shoes open and you will not be able to properly adjust the rears and your pedal will have too much free play with no braking action. 
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