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71-74 B body with Cruise control - Washer wiring question #2798752
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I am working on a well butchered 74 Road Runner wiring harness. Lots of wires are flat missing.

This car has cruise control from the factory and for the 71-74 B bodies the cruise unit mounts where the windshield washer reservoir normally mounts.
This means the Washer bottle is not only different it is on the other side of the engine bay.

There is a brown wire for the washer motor connection laying un-connected near the cruise control unit.
How is the washer bottle on the other side of the engine bay wired?

Is it another wire in the harness that I am missing or is there a separate wire/harness running across the engine bay like the AC wiring is wired?

Anyone have a 71-74 B body with cruise?

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Re: 71-74 B body with Cruise control - Washer wiring question [Re: IMGTX] #2798795
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Wire extension running from original location to the cruise washer bottle location along the radiator core support, side to side to the headlight harness.. as far I recall. I'm adding cruise control on my car and that's what I found


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Re: 71-74 B body with Cruise control - Washer wiring question [Re: NachoRT74] #2798828
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well I found this pic what says the opposite that I thought... wire running from firewall side not radiator core support, soooo... it seems it should be an extension wire from the non cruise control provision up to there but running along the firewall

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Re: 71-74 B body with Cruise control - Washer wiring question [Re: NachoRT74] #2798846
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Totally awesome.

That is perfect.

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Re: 71-74 B body with Cruise control - Washer wiring question [Re: IMGTX] #2798955
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Id like to add cruise to a 70 satellite i have. Are there step by step install with photos out there? Thanks Terry


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Originally Posted by IMGTX
Totally awesome.

That is perfect.

Thanks
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so all what we'll need is plug this extension from the actual location to reach the new location... simply a male/female wire, packard56 on a brown wire wink


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Originally Posted by Dodge
Id like to add cruise to a 70 satellite i have. Are there step by step install with photos out there? Thanks Terry


are you thinking on stock system or aftermarket ?

have you already got the parts?

the washer reservoir change is just a 73 and lates deal.


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Originally Posted by Dodge
Id like to add cruise to a 70 satellite i have. Are there step by step install with photos out there? Thanks Terry


The stock factory unit is very easy to retro fit onto virtually ANY Mopar . . . you will need the speedo cable from the transmission to the transducer, then the other speedo cable from the transducer to the speedo head (generally any C body cables will fit), then of course the transducer, along with the bracket that it bolts to and bolts to the inner fender (again, C body bracket fits most), then you need the correct accel pedal carburettor bracket that also has the bracket provision for the cable from transducer to carb. Also on the carb, need the "lost motion" piece that the transducer cable connects to for controlling the carb. Inside the car, you need the turn signal stock switch for cruise control application (again mid 70's - not correct look can fit, and function ), and the brake light switch with the additional contacts that are used to disengage the cruise when you tap the brakes. Of course there is also the wiring harness for underhood and underdash - both are seperate and not part of the main harness. And or course you need a vacuum source/hose to go to the transducer (again, C body cars usually have long correct size hose) - if power brake car, then there is proper valve with fitting for cruise, that is on the brake booster. If non power brake car, then get the vacuum sourced from the vacuum tee on intake manifold behind the carb.

Easiest is to find a car in wrecking yard, with cruise control, and remove all items from it. I know it is getting VERY VERY VERY long in the tooth to find, but can use the pieces (except turn signal stock switch) from M or J body cars (Chrysler 5th Ave, Cordoba, Mirada, etc) . . .

Sorry I don't have any pics, other than these two on my Sport Satellite - you can see under hood a little bit ?? And correct turn signal stock switch.


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Sorry guys. Yes stock stuff. Someones selling a parts lot. I just need to sweet talk them into shipping the stuff. Not sure what its from or if it works. Im working on a project that i want to make run and drive. It'd be sweet to have cruise 😁

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Same car? ❤❤❤❤ 🤪🤪🤪🤪

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Originally Posted by Dodge
Sorry guys. Yes stock stuff. Someones selling a parts lot. I just need to sweet talk them into shipping the stuff. Not sure what its from or if it works. Im working on a project that i want to make run and drive. It'd be sweet to have cruise 😁


lot of parts involved:
-Servo motor and its bracket
-speedo and transmission cable. Both conect to the servo motor.
-vacuum line to the brake booster provission
-throttle cable between servomotor and carburator
-Carburator lever/link
-Brake booster bracket ( to accelerator cable and wiring )
-throttle cable bracket to the throttle linkage bracket
-wiring harness between cab and servomotor
-turning switch lever with the Cruise contro switch
-Brake pedal switch ( and bracket ) for cruise control



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Re: 71-74 B body with Cruise control - Washer wiring question [Re: Dodge] #2799317
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Originally Posted by Dodge
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Yup, that's my car !! I like to "drive it" . . . heh heh heh . . hence cruise control car, ac, factory 6way manual drivers bucket seat, console auto !

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Thank you for the pics Nacho 😁

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Originally Posted by NachoRT74
Originally Posted by Dodge
Sorry guys. Yes stock stuff. Someones selling a parts lot. I just need to sweet talk them into shipping the stuff. Not sure what its from or if it works. Im working on a project that i want to make run and drive. It'd be sweet to have cruise 😁


lot of parts involved:
-Servo motor and its bracket
-speedo and transmission cable. Both conect to the servo motor.
-vacuum line to the brake booster provission
-throttle cable between servomotor and carburator
-Carburator lever/link
-Brake booster bracket ( to accelerator cable and wiring )
-throttle cable bracket to the throttle linkage bracket
-wiring harness between cab and servomotor
-turning switch lever with the Cruise contro switch
-Brake pedal switch ( and bracket ) for cruise control




Note that this description is for 1969. 1969 used vacuum switch with brake light switch, to disengage the transducer (servo motor) when you touched the brake pedal. 1970 and up, was all electric, so the brake light switch has another set of contacts that are used to open the electrical circuit to the transducer . . . . .

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Not correct parts, but i should beable to use some of it. Its shipping today

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May I ask what cars those parts came out of?

From the pictures it looks like one of the cruse switches has a bigger bend at the base than the other one.

I used to remove the "crush cans" on the Cuda/Challengers and put an aftermarket steering wheel on them. The problem was the E-body turn signal lever had a bigger bend and would hit the wheel if you swapped out a shorter or no can steering wheel. The trick I used was to swap in A/B body levers which didn't have the big bend at the base. and all was great.

If you do not need one with the big bend and want to sell it, please give me a PM.

I have never seen brackets like that long one but the plastic bodies lead me to believe they are newer production units. Later model ones were plastic IIRC.

EDIT- I mispoke in my original post. The cans are always metal. The bodies are metal on the early ones. Through at least 74 since my 70 and 74 both have a metal body..


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I just bought this stuff. Shipped today. Not sure what everythings form. When i get it here, ill get ahold of you. Thanks Terry

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