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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763780
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Rich,

Thanks for the update, I enjoyed it!

Bill

Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: 340Cuda] #2763909
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Thanks everyone.

Dave V. convinced me to triple check my lash cap to lock clearance
and gave me an alternative way to verify it using Dykem which was a great tip.
Dave if you see this, thanks again.
I think I just stuck a caliper pin in there last year and it seemed okay at the time.
But that was last year. But this is something to go over maybe more than once, and to be
beyond confident about. I decided to shorten the lash caps a skosh
then use Dave's verification method one more time. "better safe than sorry", triple checked.
So that's what I'm currently picking away at.

Here is the combination of wire parts I assembled for it.

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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763910
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763912
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Wires are the ONLY thing that is slightly easier than a Wedge.

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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763914
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Other side.

I'm going to drill out and use those goofy stock white plastic wire holders, whenever they show up.

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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763916
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I might try this later, just for fun.

Who am I kidding, the whole darn thing is just for fun.
That's why I set myself up with different parts to mess with.

Thanks for reading, any questions just holler.

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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763922
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While I don't know a lot about HEMI engines I wouldn't use that one piece valley tray unless you REALLY need to twocents Biggest mistake I made when I built my 493 mad I like your progress so far it should make some nice numbers. I hope it stays cool with your pulley selection because I had almost the same setup for pulleys and mine would run hot after a while of cruising.


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763925
04/14/20 04:31 PM
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Say YES to the TUNNEL RAM !!!! smile


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: fourgearsavoy] #2763926
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Thx for the comment so quick. Will see how it goes.

The Barton and Weiand intake I'm going to mess with have integral valley tray,
which would probably be even worse. The slightly increased difficulty of service is not
really a problem, I am totally used to taking the manifold off for access to the lifter valley.


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: CSK] #2763927
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Originally Posted by csk
Say YES to the TUNNEL RAM !!!! smile


"Oh $#1+ here it comes!!"

(that's what folks say when they see your Charger...maybe this one too someday)



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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2763959
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Looking at the big Hemi cylinder heads, it reminds me of the years racing my Dart with the 440 based wedge engine.
The BB wedge heads look so small compared to the guys at the track with BB Chevy engines. Those Hemi heads would change that !
Looks good thumbs


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: 440Jim] #2763967
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Thanks for taking the time to share so I can live vicariously through your project. wave


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: slantzilla] #2764148
04/15/20 09:32 AM
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How well does the indy valley plate line up against the eddie head? - do you have a pic without the intake? And yes that tunnel ram is just calling out "put me on" if you want to sell the tunnel ram let me know

Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: DoubleD] #2764263
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Originally Posted by DoubleD
How well does the indy valley plate line up against the eddie head? - do you have a pic without the intake?


Looks like it will work as intended, it will need a fairly heavy bead of RTV similar to the AL stock replacement heads
I started mockups with. I want to say it looked like about 3/16" gap but don't hold me to it.
It isn't "captured" by the heads. I can snap a picture later.


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: 440Jim] #2764271
04/15/20 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 440Jim
Looking at the big Hemi cylinder heads, it reminds me of the years racing my Dart with the 440 based wedge engine.
The BB wedge heads look so small compared to the guys at the track with BB Chevy engines. Those Hemi heads would change that !
Looks good thumbs


Thanks!
Before jumping in, I had to step back and evaluate my past experiences and observations to make sure
I really wanted to do this, and I spent an afternoon mocking up a hemi out of mostly broken parts that
I accumulated back during my time at MP. I rolled the engine stand in front of my car, took pictures and asked myself...."are you sure?" quite a few times. It's as much, or more, for the cool factor and value add as anything.
I'm clearly not a hardcore racer, and I talked myself out of any performance concerns
just adding up 400cfm and 572ci. Hopefully it will make the big torque.


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: slantzilla] #2764274
04/15/20 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by slantzilla
Thanks for taking the time to share so I can live vicariously through your project. wave


glad you like it. Still trying to drive some content here in spite of a long list of stuff.

Someone smarter than me suggested a youtube "hemi for regular gearheads" series.
I'm sure there are some who would probably find it useful. I'm not 100% sure I can make it entertaining
enough for those who aren't already in the middle of one, though.


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2764300
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Rich.. looks good.. I had 1 hemi years ago.. that thing was a PITA.. glad I sold it
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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2764355
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Thanks Mike. Something a little bit different.


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Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: ZIPPY] #2764486
04/16/20 05:09 AM
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I check all my pulley alignment's with a long piece of 3/8 Ø round stock, i put in in the pulley grove like a v-block and check it to the other rotating pulleys,this method will put you spot on, I don't trust a Visual alignment.

Re: A little 572 update with ugly pictures [Re: RATTRAP] #2764551
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That's a good tip, thanks.

I lay a straight edge in the grooves but lacking the proper bolts to hold
the pulley on at the time, I could either hold the pulley and the iphone, or the pulley and the straightedge
but not both at the same time.


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