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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27418
04/21/07 05:44 PM 04/21/07 05:44 PM

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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27419
04/21/07 09:02 PM 04/21/07 09:02 PM

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here is mine after paint no buffing
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27420
04/21/07 10:30 PM 04/21/07 10:30 PM
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Looks like you did a good job to me. Now if you want to have it shine you will have to buy a professional buffer / pads like the Porter cable and some poor boys swirl remover,polish,wax. These items are a little expensive but with the money saved by doing the inexpensive paint job it will be money well spent. I just bought a new Porter cable buffer for $106.00 shipped from the company.

If you haven't seen Aussie Drivers updates i urge you to take a look at his results and see for yourself what a shine that can be had with the right materials and some quality time with the buffer.
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED [Re: pdqvsix] #27421
04/22/07 12:05 AM 04/22/07 12:05 AM

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So can I get a primer on buffing and polishing?
I have the roof finished and have the 2 part Meguiar's buffing and polishing goo. What type of pad do I use for each? And how much buffing time before wiping off the excess as it says don't let the compound dry?

Any advice would be a help.
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04/22/07 12:12 AM 04/22/07 12:12 AM

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well heres a lil update of my integra.. its brightside fire red.. this should be my final coat of paint, i think its coat #4 or 5.. i layed this last one down thin to hopefully eliminate alot of wet sanding. these pics are just after painting, no polishing yet
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27423
04/22/07 12:34 AM 04/22/07 12:34 AM

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So can I get a primer on buffing and polishing?
I have the roof finished and have the 2 part Meguiar's buffing and polishing goo. What type of pad do I use for each? And how much buffing time before wiping off the excess as it says don't let the compound dry?

Any advice would be a help.



I don't know exactly what that Meguiar's stuff is, but the usual buffing system is to use a cutting pad (usually the harder/firmer pad) with the swirl remover/cutting compound and then to use a softer pad for the polishing.

You should use the cutting compound/swirl remover at a higher speed than for the polish. When I use the Poorboy's SSR3 with my cutting pad, I have my random orbital going flat out. For a polish I have my ro going about 2/3's of max speed.

When you buff/polish you should keep going until there is hardly any residue left. Then wipe the area down with a microfiber cloth and start on the next area.

You will probably need at least 2 passes of each product/pad combo to get a good finish.
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04/22/07 07:52 AM 04/22/07 07:52 AM

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for the guys that used interlux's roll on primer, what kind did you get?
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27425
04/22/07 01:15 PM 04/22/07 01:15 PM

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Nice find thanks!!! 30 bucks!!!

On ebay you can get them for 20$ but they only have 2 color choice

I heard that the orange only is available in Canada

I can't make my mind up for the color.

What colors do you guys think look good on a VW bug?




thanks


i think as long as you buff & polish, any color would look good.

have you ever considered going with Van Sickle paint? they have a wide variety of colors. i called them up and they gave me a distributor's number. however, i've forgotten and lost the contact info. you can get it from them. but this distributor was also able to mix up some colors for you. idk.. just a suggestion.

gl.

here are some progress shots:


just had to do the jambs


can't wait to take it out and give it some sun.


giving the paint a couple weeks before i cut, buff & polish.

_taF
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27426
04/22/07 01:32 PM 04/22/07 01:32 PM

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A couple pages back someone put a link to a youtube movie comparing the difference between a couple marine paints. Brighside came in last.


This seems like it could be an important development in paint choice. I watched the movie showing the comparison of yacht paints and am now pretty much convinced that brightside may not be the best choice.


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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27427
04/22/07 06:05 PM 04/22/07 06:05 PM
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True, brightside may not be the best choice. Perhaps the best choice is the Epifanes stuff-- though the guys who did the tests tried to make it somewhat scientific, it was suggestive of Epifanes being better for durability but to be conclusive more tests would need to be done. Their scratch test did NOT look well controlled at all, so I would take that with a grain of salt.

They did get a nice shiny result with 2 medium coats from the can plus some wetsanding and polishing though.
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED [Re: Exit1965] #27428
04/22/07 08:13 PM 04/22/07 08:13 PM

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Hey guys. I was just wondering if anyone has some advice on how to paint the trim I have outlined in the picture.



It's just metal, so I was thinking of sanding to make it adhere better, and then getting a can of tremclad black gloss spray and just spraying away. Has anyone tried this?
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04/22/07 08:58 PM 04/22/07 08:58 PM

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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27430
04/22/07 09:54 PM 04/22/07 09:54 PM

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yah you can and sem makes a trim black that works well in those metal parts go to http://www.levineautoparts.com/semvinandpla.html and they sell it there. also a great place to get interior paint in factory colors...

though next time you remove emblems use some kite string, not a screwdriver... keeps from gouging the metal.
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27431
04/22/07 11:04 PM 04/22/07 11:04 PM
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but you can save a lot of sanding time by spraying



Why even bother to use rustoleum then? There are some cheap single stage paints you can buy. Maybe not as cheap as rustoleum but if you're going to spray it, why not just use real car paint?
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #27432
04/23/07 12:44 AM 04/23/07 12:44 AM

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but you can save a lot of sanding time by spraying



Why even bother to use rustoleum then? There are some cheap single stage paints you can buy. Maybe not as cheap as rustoleum but if you're going to spray it, why not just use real car paint?


yeah, Napa had some low-end single-stage acrylic paint for $90+ USD.

they also had some low-end two-stage paint for $21 USD a quart. then you'd have to get the reducer for $20+ USD, hardener for $20+ USD, and clear coat for $20+ USD.

i was about to do this since i have a gravity feed HVLP gun but the motor in the darn compressor is bad.

_taF
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED [Re: Exit1965] #27433
04/23/07 02:18 AM 04/23/07 02:18 AM

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True, brightside may not be the best choice. Perhaps the best choice is the Epifanes stuff-- though the guys who did the tests tried to make it somewhat scientific, it was suggestive of Epifanes being better for durability but to be conclusive more tests would need to be done. Their scratch test did NOT look well controlled at all, so I would take that with a grain of salt.

They did get a nice shiny result with 2 medium coats from the can plus some wetsanding and polishing though.



I agree with you on the lack of control on the scratch test. There is no way fully cured paint of this kind would scratch that easily. The test may have been done too early, or perhaps the substrate was not suited to brightside but worked better with the epifanes. Still, with the results they did get and the lower cost of epifanes, plus the better color variety of epifanes has perked my curiosity.
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04/23/07 01:04 PM 04/23/07 01:04 PM

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Hardcore thread!

Folks, has anyone used the matt finish Rustoleum? I'm going to use it for my old Audi, but I'm unsure as to the last step.

No polishing I guess, but would the final coat require treating in any way?
Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27435
04/23/07 01:16 PM 04/23/07 01:16 PM

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brownj218:
The guys over at the ImpalaSS forum -- where I hang out a lot -- swear by using 3M trim tape (blackout tape) instead of painting the trim. It comes in flat, satin, and gloss -- so you can choose the look you want.

You can buy it online at Auto Body Depot or locally at an auto paint supply house:
AutoBodyDepot sells the proper 3M 1/2" trim tape online (been searching forever!). Just plug in the item number (Low Gloss Black > #72793, Gloss Black > #72702) and run a search.

Here's a link with a picture of a finished product:
http://impalassforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=006091#000000

And a link with both Before and After pics:
http://impalassforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=004881#000017


-- Dan
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04/23/07 06:56 PM 04/23/07 06:56 PM

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more progress shots. gave it a quick shower:


finally got my japanese spec interior in after sitting around in storage for a few years


who looks bigger now?


sun directly behind me


come on; smile!

_taF
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04/23/07 07:42 PM 04/23/07 07:42 PM

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I have taped and painted trim.

Tape gets tricky, especially with compound curves and right angles.

Paint chips. There is always one freaking spot that doesn't get enough sanding or enough cleaning. Usually dead center at the top of the windshield, where it is most visible (and hardest to touch-up).

That said, the last time I blacked out chrome trim I used a flexible finish - figuring it would be less prone to chipping. I think it is marketed as tool handle coating. Comes in dip cans and rattlecan. That was two years ago. Hasn't chipped, cracked, peeled, rusted or faded yet.

I figured I could confess that here without being mocked or scorned...

Attached is a pic of the car. The hassle that went into trying to get a decent paint job done on that car is the reason I'm reading this forum today for the others in the stable. Never again.

Roll on, bruthas....

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